Re: Evidence of God

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 04:57:02 -0500, 386sx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Message ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in alt.atheism;

>Al Evan writes:
>
>> That is my exact point: "No true atheist claims that there is no god."
>> What's yours?
>
>Then this would be the "no true Scotsman" fallacy.  If you say "there is a
>God," then an atheist could either say "Nope, there ain't no God," or she
>could say, "I don't believe you."  In the latter case either the onus would
>be on you to do some smooth talking and trying to prove your claim, or you
>could just ignore it altogether and pretend to put the onus back on her by
>telling her she is an atheist (true, because she says she doesn't believe
>you) and that the "true atheists" make the assertion that there is no god
>(false, because you want to weasel out of your burden of proof.)  An atheist
>could either say "There is no God," or "I don't believe you," but you would
>have all atheists saying "There is no God."  Hence, the "no true Scotsman"
>fallacy.
>
>That is what these folks are trying to tell you.  There are two camps here;
>one of them is saying "I don't believe you," (i.e. the Llama camp) and the
>other is saying "there is no God, and I can back that up, but I don't feel
>like doing that just right now, but please do get it straight what is an
>atheist," (i.e. the Scamper camp.)

I can't help but chuckle at "the Scamper camp."  Both 'camps' lack
belief in the theist assertion(s).

Thank you for the chuckle.
         

   
             Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
               and
          SCAMPERMEISTER!"

When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert

alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}