Re: Evidence of God

"ZenIsWhen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
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> > Klein wrote:  "...Atheism is
> > a lack of belief in gods, not a disbelief. Pay attention."
> >
> > Klein,
> >    You are quibbling about the meaning of words:  Do athiests
> > "disbelieve" in God, or do they merely suffer from a '..lack of
> > belief..' in Him?  This, to me, is 'much ado about nothing.'
> 
> (psssst... it isn't "suffering"!)
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> >    Does the jury who finds a defendant guilty 'disblieve' his defense
> > or do they 'lack belief' in his defense?  What's the difference?
> > Either way the jury logically finds the defendant guilty, and he is
> > punished by the law.
> 
> Irrational and irrelivent!
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> >    I get the impression, from your statements, that you seem to think
> > that you escape the need to argue that God does not exist (i.e., to
> > prove that statement logically) because somehow you seem to think you
> > are not making a positive statement of disbelief.
> 
> There is no need to argue that god doesn't exist. No one has yet provided
> any valid evidence that ANY god exists!
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> >    You're wrong! 'Lack of belief' and 'disbelief' are the same thing.
> 
> Failed English comprehension, didn't you!?!?!?!?!
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> > As in the jury example above, either statement is derived from the
> > same evidence, and leads to the same conclusion.  In other words, "I
> > say 'tomatoe', and you say 'tomato.'  But, they are the same thing.
> 
> No, they are not.


ZenisWhen:

As in the jury example above:  Yes, they are the same!  YoupProve,
linguistically or logically, or anyway you think you can, that they
are not.


The jury example above, far from being 'irrational and irrevelant', is
brilliant, and tightly reasoned-your response--based on no apparent
logic to the contrary not-withstanding.  In other words, your
statement that something is so, don't make it that way.  Try reasoning
out your response instead of just typing answers that mean nothing to
anyone except, perhaps, yourself.

I think you sound unhappy.  Maybe you could use a little faith in
'gods.' to brighten up your otherwise drab existance.  What do you do
for Christmas, Halloween, et. al?  Sit and sulk that others are
enjoying themselves?