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On 14 Oct 2003 11:02:22 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AlEvan) wrote: Its always interesting to read the nonsense of people here whose knowledge of history consists of Sunday school aphorisms. >Furthermore, again: The first people Hitler imprisoned were christian >clerics-in fact, Catholics. Pure baloney. Want details read about it at http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/paul_23_4.html its damning. >I can tell you this, Dave: I know Catholics, and Hitler is no >Catholic. Just the opposite: He is anally parochial. And you are an ill informed compulsive theist. >The Crusades were not a war of aggression. Just the opposite, they >were a defensive war. They attempted to wrest from the Muslims lands >which were Christian; and from which the Muslim had driven the >Christians. The also killed a lot of Christians. They were mostly a gang of armed thieves and murders. >On the other hand, it is true that the Crusades were diverted to >objectives, such as the Sack of Constantinople, that had nothing to do >with the persuit of the stated mission. This is facinating history, >because it indicates just how weak the Popes themselves actually were: > They could not lead armies themselves, or assign their Cardinals or >Bishops to lead, but had to depend on the political leaders of the >time; and, the way they got them to go was to promise them land. > >In the scale of things of that time, the Crusaders were no more >violent than anyone else...including the Muslims. Yes, that is the way of religious zealotry Tired of Modern Art? check http://www3.sympatico.ca/manideli/
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