Re: the stupidest Bible story -- VIRGIN BIRTH STORIES

On 10 Oct 2003 05:34:31 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AlEvan)
wrote:

>Mani Deli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> On 9 Oct 2003 14:19:01 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AlEvan)
>> wrote:

>Explanation why your remark is "Ill informed":
>The historic and economic principle that underlies Lenin, Stalin,
>Hitler, Musselini, Pol Pot, Castro, Mao, and just about every 20th
>Century principled murderer--notice the word "principled":  They did
>not commit their crimes against humanity for non-logical
>(unprincipled) reasons--

There principals were taken as dogma and anyone who questioned them
was dealt with. Just like religions where they have the power as they
still do in most of the world.

>They were completely logical! 

I wasn't addressing logic and they aren't logical. 

> It is that they
>were, and, in the case of those still living, are, Socialists--This is
>what THEY claim.

In spite of labels they  weren't any more socialist then Christianity
was moral.


>
>Furthermore, They base their claim to hold, and exercise, power on
>Socialism--and all the ramifications associated with it: Like,

Your idea of socialism is based on what uninformed rightwing
Republican cranks use as a catchword for the uninformed hoser faction
of the party. 

Most of present day Europe, Canada  and even the US is run on in part
by socialist principals.

>"Religion is the opiate of the people";


>  Ministers and priests, and
>nuns, and teachers, and parents and relations who teach anything other
>than total power belonging top the state, and Liberally educated
>people, and entrepeneurs and capitalists are all "enemies of the
>people"

Not in Italy and Nazi Germany. Capitalists weren't the  "enemies of
the people"

I suspect the nitwit learned history in Sunday School.


>Furthermore, again:  Don't you find it interesting that they all came
>up with the same methods for handling "enemies of the people?"  They
>imprison and torture and kill them.  Furthermore, again, brother, not
>a single one of them believe in any God--Christian or
>otherwise--outside the state.  They, and Socialism, and historical
>necessity, are "God."

Hitler was a Catholic, Stalin a seminarian who studied for the
priesthood.
>
>What I am saying is called "Direct Evidence" from facts that everyone,
>who bothers to read any history of the world in the 19th and 20th
>Centuries, knows to be true. 

Your facts aren't facts.

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