Re: Evidences of God

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:13:16 +0200, "Chain Smoker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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After I hit send I realized there were a couple items I missed
responding to.

>There is a lot in your response that was interesting to me, but I thought
>I'd restrict this post to a smaller set of topic, particularly those not
>snipped below.

Not a problem.

>> >I believe God, the Father of Christ, supercedes any and all other things.
>> >Christ's teachings seem to me the best thing I've ever encountered.  I
>> >think, even if a person thought he was not the Son of God, that they
>should
>> >appreciate him for those.
>>
>> The teachings didn't originate with Christianity.
>
>Where did they originate?  This issue has come up in other discussions I've
>read and participated in on Usenet, but I've never seen specifics.  I've
>seen claims that Mithraism and (I think) Zoroastrianism are the sources of
>Christian beliefs such as virgin birth, water baptism, salvation by proxy,
>resurrection.  But none of these are specifically taught by Christ except
>water baptism.  The rest are said about Christ, but that's another thing
>entirely.
>
>Christ's teachings include, among other things, that we should love even our
>enemies, that we should not judge one another (often misinterpreted to mean
>that we should not try and point out one another's mistakes for correction),

Um, 'not judging' is just that.  The text verbage puts no restrictions
on 'not judging.'

If the text doesn't mean what it says then there isn't a single verse
which can be counted on.  It also highlights the idiocy of the xtian
deity as it's outperformed by a human five year old.  A human five year
old could tell you the ramifications and reprecussions of 'scrambling'
the languages.  It's been some two millenia and "god" still hasn't
figured out there's a problem.

"God" is also out-performed by a human two-year old.  A human two-year
old can forgive someone in a heartbeat without a 'dog and pony' show.


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             Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
               and
          SCAMPERMEISTER!"

When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert

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