Re: the stupidest Bible story -- "God's nature" -- THE CHAIR

Bob Crowley wrote:

> Thomas P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED],> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >
> > >Even is He is omnipotent, and therefore "knows all things", He is in
> > >the position of having no choice regarding any creatures He makes who
> > >He grants free will.
> >
> > Omnipotence means having absolute, unconditional power over all
> > things.  Either he is omnipotent, or he is not.  What you say above
> > equals saying that even though a circle is a circle, it does not
> > change the fact that that circle is a square.
> >
> Omnipotence would also include the ability to "withdraw" so to speak.
> If we consider the evil actions which so often make the news and the
> many more which do not make the news, then the only way these things
> can happen in the presence of an omnipotent God is if He allows them
> to happen.
>
> In other words when it comes to our free will, He restrains from
> imposing His Will in the forceful sense.
>
> >
> > If he decides to grant free will, he has decided to be not God.  He
> > has decided that every decision made by a human and the consequences
> > of that decision on the rest of his creation are beyond his control.
> > The final result would be that he would have very little control of
> > anything.  The concept is hopelessly illogical.
>
> He has decided to allow the creatures to choose for or against Him
> basically.

===>He cannot "decide" to allow something else to happen other than what
he ALREADY KNOWS will happen IN ADVANCE.
He KNEW IN ADVANCE that IF he created ADAM and EVE,
and IF he placed that tree and that snake with them in the Garden,
the earthlings would disobey his warning. So, by going ahead and
making them, he created them TO FAIL!

    Like an auto manufacturer producing a car that all engineering advice
shows will be an accident ready to happen.