Re: All living Christianity is pantheistic -- "WE ARE ALSO ITS OFFSPRING"

"Libertarius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> SJS wrote:
> > "Libertarius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote...
> > > Peter wrote:
> > > > "Rasputin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> > > > Acts 17:28
> > > > For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of
> > > > your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

> > > > This is either a pantheist or panentheist concept of God.

> > > ===>Well,  aside from the fact that Paul did not write it,
> > > it IS an expression taken from Stoicism, an
> > > expression of Pantheistic Stoicism. In fact, it may be translated as
> > > "in it", since "EN AUTO" may be either masculine on neuter.
> > > So, it might read:
> > > "For in IT we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of
> > > your own poets have said, For we are also ITS offspring."
> > > A very good Pantheistic statement.
> > >         Libertarius
> > > ============

> > Morphologically, looking at the word's form outside of its context,
> > yes--auto can be translated as "it."  However, syntactically, pronouns
must
> > agree with their antecedents in gender.  The antecedent here is God in
verse
> > 27.  He is referred to one other time in verse 27 using the masculine
> > pronoun auton.  Not only that, but the text continues: "Therefore, being
> > offspring of God..."

> > The only proper translation of "en auto" then is "In Him."  Of course,
the
> > full statement attributed to Paul can and is understood theistically.

> ===>Unfortunately, that is the twist the author put on it.
> But it makes no sense in view of Juedeo-Christian "theism".

It is certainly used in view of Judeo-Christian theism, which teaches that
we all live under God providential care; he even sustains our existence.

Scott