Re: All living Christianity is pantheistic -- "WE ARE ALSO ITS OFFSPRING"

SJS wrote:

> "Libertarius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote...
>
> > Peter wrote:
> > > "Rasputin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > >This is what most Christians believe today, that creation is imperfect
> or in
> > > >bondage, and has been separated from God. This does not sound like
> > > >Pantheism.
>
> > > I am aware of that view. However Paul himself also wrote:
>
> > > Acts 17:28
> > > For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of
> > > your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
>
> > > This is either a pantheist or panentheist concept of God.
>
> > ===>Well,  aside from the fact that Paul did not write it,
> > it IS an expression taken from Stoicism, an
> > expression of Pantheistic Stoicism. In fact, it may be translated as
> > "in it", since "EN AUTO" may be either masculine on neuter.
> > So, it might read:
> > "For in IT we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of
> > your own poets have said, For we are also ITS offspring."
> > A very good Pantheistic statement.
> >
> >         Libertarius
> > ============
>
> Morphologically, looking at the word's form outside of its context,
> yes--auto can be translated as "it."  However, syntactically, pronouns must
> agree with their antecedents in gender.  The antecedent here is God in verse
> 27.  He is referred to one other time in verse 27 using the masculine
> pronoun auton.  Not only that, but the text continues: "Therefore, being
> offspring of God..."
>
> The only proper translation of "en auto" then is "In Him."  Of course, the
> full statement attributed to Paul can and is understood theistically.

===>Unfortunately, that is the twist the author put on it.
But it makes no sense in view of Juedeo-Christian "theism".