Re: Purgatory?

"Joseph Geloso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:40:26 -0700, "Iconoclast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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> >"Joseph Geloso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:15:52 -0700, "Iconoclast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
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> >> >"Joseph Geloso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >> >> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 07:20:16 -0700, "Iconoclast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Faith is an attribute, not a church or belief system.
> >> >>
> >> >> Faith is a virtue, one of the three theological virtues of Faith,
> >> >> Hope, and Charity.
> >> >
> >> >Do you have clue what you wrote?
> >> >
> >> >Faith is given by God.
> >>
> >> All virtue is given by God, and Faith is one of the virtues. A virtue
> >> that a person possesses could be said to be an attribute, so that a
> >> faithful person is said to have the attribute of faith, or perhaps
> >> fidelity would be a better choice.
> >>
> >> >You don't grow it.
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> >> God will increase your faith if you ask Him to.
> >>
> >> >You don't produce it.
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> >> God produces it in the soul.
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> >> >It is one OF THE three attributes.
> >>
> >> It can be said to be an attribute, as above, but fidelity would
> >> probably be a better choice of words. Faith is one of the seven
> >> principal virtues, of which the first three are called the Theological
> >> Virtues, namely, Faith, Hope, and Charity. The remaining four virtues
> >> are called the Cardinal Virtues of Temperance, Justice, Prudence, and
> >> Fortitude. All these virtues can be cultivated and increased in the
> >> soul, by their exercise, and by prayer.
> >
> >Who said?
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> I did. Just above. How bad is *your* memory??

OK, who with any credibility said?
Shall we include what Joseph Smith said?
Shall we include the Pope who called Jews Christ killers?

If you don't know what faith is or how it is obtained, you haven't the
knowledge to continue in any subsequent theological conversation.  Of course
Catholic lemmings just "fall" to their death.