Re: Invasive tactics (was Re: The important)

Evelyn Ruut wrote:

> ";"'''--=+)([EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > He can't drag you anywhere unless you allow him to do it. What is really
> > at issue here ? Is it really the way Fooey posts, or is it the reactions
that
> > he gets ? These reactions are all voluntary. Fooey is not over at your
> > house with a gun at your head forcing you to respond to his posts. You
have
> > taken what he has done personally and the only one who will derive grief
and
> > allow voluntary self-sabotage is you by taking things personally. Even
if
> > someone intends something towards you personally, you are never forced
to accept
> > it as such. It is not necessarily Fooey's actions that are suspect here
but
> > the motivational reasons behind your and other's complete and utter
> > willingness to be affected by what he does. What type of juice are you
getting out of
> > this volleying back and forth of what others do to you ?
>
> This may also have something to do with why we post on usenet at all.
>
> I am replying with a quote:
>
> "Like the Lotus which cannot grow not on high ground but only in low
marshy
> land, those who have entered nirvana by cutting off all klesa (defilement)
> will not develop into Buddhahood; whereas sentient beings in the mire of
> klesa eventually will. Like paddy seeds that cannot grow in space but only
> in manured fields; those who have cut off all klesa cannot progress into
the
> Buddha Dharma whereas beings whose klesa are endless may one day do so.
Thus
> all kinds of klesa are the seeds of the Tathagata. This is like a man who
> cannot obtain precious pearls if he does not dive into the sea. Likewise,
a
> man who does not dive into the sea of klesa will never find the pearl of
> savajna."
>
> ??? <Vimalakirti-nirdesa Sutra>

Are you saying that you post to the NGs because you find opportunities for
achieving Buddhahood here? If all "klesas are the seeds of the Tathagata",
shouldn't the Tathagata be grateful for the klesas because they are the
source and foundation of his Buddhahood? If so, shouldn't you be grateful to
the trolls because they are seeds for you to attain Buddhahood? Why then do
you rant against and spread canards about the trolls, instead of being
grateful to them?

Shiva