Re: The evil fruits of bad Karma

"DrWarrenKrugar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Riku Simonen) wrote in message
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> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DrWarrenKrugar) wrote in message
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> > > > If the Law of Karma truly exists than poor, handicapped, mentally
ill
> > > > etc. people are just "enjoying" the evil fruits of his/her previous
> > > > evil action. What a disturbing thought what is hard to accept.
> > > >
> > > > Riku
> > >
> > > In my experience, Riku, most disturbing thoughts are hard to accept -
> > > that's what makes them disturbing. However, what disturbs me most
> > > about your statement is the "etc." I suppose that was inserted as a
> > > category to house the rest of us. This displeases me.
> >
> > I did not mean that. I meant all other possible bad states of being
human.
>
> What you mean wasn't important to me. I am allowed to pout.
>
> I pout because what you mean or say does not correspond with my neatly
> packaged view of reality. And so it seems that I have just put my
> finger on the essence of the problem here.
>
> As I see it, it is likely that the very point of Buddhism (or any
> religious system) is to maintain and defend one's world view against
> the slightest evidence to the contrary. At day's end the most stubborn
> man takes the field.
>
> Thus, if some tired old Buddhist tome mentions rebirth, you must adopt
> and defend this old-time dogma for it's own sake, regardless of its
> actual accuracy, importance or applicability. Logic, analysis or
> utilitarianism must all make way for faith and the slightest chinks
> sealed up quickly.
>
> Accordingly, in this thread you will no doubt observe the interesting
> spectacle of people rushing to the front lines to defend their
> precious and fragile faith against your ever-so-tiny crack of a
> challenge. If the response seems disproportionate, you must bear in
> mind that faith is a precious and fragile thing.
>
> But in truth, your objection is at least as logical and valid as the
> defense of the faithful against it - it just doesn't feel right; it
> doesn't sit well. Those who defend the faith against your challenge do
> so on the same terms. Your challenge just doesn't sit right with them.
>
> If there is any truth in what you say, it can throw their entire
> worldviews akilter and launch them into messy spirals of doubt and
> self-discovery.
>
> -warren


A very good reason to not be attached to views at all where Karma is
concerned.  You can spin yourself into a frenzy trying to figure out all the
karmic connections.   It can be a useful philosophy but it also runs out of
its uses at a certain point..... though not saying it doesn't exist, it just
doesn't pay to try to slice it and dice it just so.

(I wish Lee Dillion was still around, he could come up with that scriptural
reference easily!)

-- 
Evelyn

(To reply to me personally, remove sox)

>
> "Reality is a crutch for people who can't cope with drugs."
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