Re: 50,000 locals refused to accept Baha'ullah's claim

Paul Hammond wrote:

> Pat Kohli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > Paul Hammond wrote:
> >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (RefugeeDeveloper) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > (snip)
> > >
> > > You're just trolling now, right?
> >
> > OT
> >
> > There is a karmic element.  In 1980 the US spent all sorts of money, and got with 
> > some religious extremists, to destabilize the
> > Soviet government in Afghanistan.  It was to be 'their Vietnam'.  By 1990, when 
> > the Soviet Union was collapsing, and they left
> > Afghanistan to the Afghans, the US had little time or money for reconstructing 
> > Afghanistan.  In contrast, one or two of our
> > partners, these of the religious extremist variety _did_ linger in Afghanistan, 
> > and, at some point, the militia of their
> > indigenous friends, the Taliban, did take over most of the country.
> >
> > To say that al Qaeda was born of the CIA, is to say nothing new at all.
> > http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2003/08/53119.php
> >
> > You can't sell tickets to a fight, if there isn't so much as a sparring partner.
> >
>
> This is true - but to suggest that the attack on the
> twin towers was *known in advance* by European intelligence,
> and connived at because it would be good for British
> and American arms manufacturers and armies is the kind
> of theory that only an Error could take seriously.
>

Yeah, that would be a bit much.  I really doubt that anyone had credible, specific 
information in that area.  I would think that the
truck-bomb, like 1993, would be the level of expertise from those guys.

>
> One could wish that other decisions (like the one to cultivate
> the Taliban against warlords and soviets) had been taken
> otherwise, but as to the intelligence services in various
> countries, and their fore-knowledge of the September 11th
> attack, the worst that can be laid at their door is
> incompetence, not connivance.  There seems to be some
> concern over different parts of intelligence gathering
> being put together - then, of course, there is the
> advantage of hindsight - when you already know which
> plots are real, and which just rumours, it is much
> easier to go back and sort the real information on
> a conspiracy from the rumours and plans that came to
> nothing.

It doesn't help when the government is in the thick of the rumour-mongering; a 
significant number of Americans believe high
government officials that Iraq had something to do with the attacks against the US in 
September 01..

Best wishes!
- Pat