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Re: From Shia & sufi theology. RE What does "al Hamdulillah." mean



Paul Hammond wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Pat Kohli at
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 23/11/03 4:05 pm:
> >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > >> Contrary to Pats statement that "alHamdulillah" is only a religious
> > >> word used by Sunni Islam,
> > >
> > > Perhaps you could cite the message and quote me where I said "that
> > > "alHamdulillah" is only a religious word used by Sunni Islam"?  I don't
> > > recall writing that at  all.  I recall saying "alHamdulillah" appeared to be
> > >  an Arabic expression about   praising  God.
> >
> > You said some "Sunni's do it" but baha'is **in no way** never borrowed
> > this practice (Islamic Tradition) from  **Sufi or Shia theology**.
> >
> > Your own quotes inclosed below in two recent posts...........Errol
> >
>
> Perhaps you could cite the message and quote Pat where he
> said that "al Hamdulillah" is only a religious word used
> by Sunni Islam?
>
> >
> > This says _nothing_ to your allegation that  "Allahu Abha" 95 times
> > each day is based on Sufis and/or Shiahs reciting "Alhamdulillah,
> > Allahu  Akbar,
> > Subhan-Allah" 33 times each day as it appears **some Sunnis do**
> >
> > However, that any Baha'i, Christian, or Hindu is free to recite
> > "Alhamdulillah, Allahu  Akbar, Subhan-Allah" 33 times each day, **in
> > no way** shows that the Baha'is borrowed this practice from **Sufi or
> > Shia theology**.
> > .
>
> Hmm - "this practice" refers to the chanting, and *in no way*
> refers to any kind of proof that the Baha'is borrowed this
> chanting practice from Sufi or Shia theology.
>
> THe only quotes *you* have provided are from Sunni sources,
> do you understand?

This is the fundamental problem:  with some parties, effective communication requires 
the use of
lArGe CrAyOnS.  When said instruments are used, the fine points are necessarily 
obscured.  If only
said parties would ignore the fine points with which they embellish their artwork, 
seeking
verisimilitude, all would be "A-OK".




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