Re: : From Shia & sufi theology. RE What does "al Hamdulillah." mean

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> in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Pat Kohli at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 22/11/03 11:28 pm:
>
> > This says _nothing_ to your allegation that  "Allahu Abha" 95 times each
> >  day   is based on Sufis and/or Shiahs reciting "Alhamdulillah, Allahu
> >  Akbar, Subhan-Allah" 33 times each day as it appears some Sunnis do
> > .  Are you  conceding that point?
>
>  All those "Arabic" terms are from *ISLAMIC TRADITIONS* (both Sunni &
> Shia) but it is a well known Babism & Bahaism came straight out of
> Shi'ism & Sufism. Sufism has many pathways which interconnect many
> sects of Islam. http://www.uga.edu/islam/Sufism.html
>

The Arabic language _preceded_ Islam.  Note I spelled "Islam" with a
capital
letter to denote the faith which began with the revelation to Rasul
Muhammad
(PBUH), rather than the general covenant of submission to God.  Arabic
has words to express concepts such as "Thank God!", "Praise God", "God
willing ...", etc.  The Arabic words for these concepts get used by any
Jews, Christians, Muslims, Druzes, and Baha'is when the person speaking
employs the Arabic language. 

>
> Drawing upon and interpreting ***ISLAMIC TRADITIONS***
> http://bahai-library.org/encyclopedia/greatest.name.html
>
> Here is proof Babis recited : 'Allah-u-Akbar  along with many other
> arabic praises to God....................................................Errol
>

No doubt the Baha'is did recite "Allahu Akbar"; they used it as a
greeting much as
"Allahu Abha".  This certainly does not make it a Muslim tradition: 
Sunni, Sufi, or Shiah.

>
>  .to carry out the Bab's injunction to His followers and to repeat
> nineteen times, each night, each of the following invocations:
> 'Allah-u-Akbar,'[99] 'Allah-u-A'zam,'[100] 'Allah-u-Ajmal,'[101]
> 'Allah-u-Abha,'[102] and 'Allah-u-Athar.'[103][104]
> http://bahai-library.org/unpubl.articles/disconnected.html

Best wishes!
- Pat
kohli at ameritel.net