Re: Sexual Offences Act 2003, UK

On 01 Dec 2003 05:38:22 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Justjim)
wrote:

>"P Diddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> "Jim Justjim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> > "P Diddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > "Jim Justjim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > > Ann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > > >> One bit I've seen and would question is why they deem it
>> necessary
>> > > > > >> to make it illegal for adult relatives to have sex.  I don't
>> > > > > >> know what the rationale behind this is.  I can't see why two
>> consenting
>> > > > > >> adults should have any limits put on their sexual activities.
>> > > > > >> People do break the law in this regard and I don't see what
>> > > > > >> harm it does.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Conceiving an incestuous baby is harmful.  Otherwise, I have to
>> > > > > >agree.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Why is it?  Who is it harmful to... and every time?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Ann
>> > > >
>> > > > It is only harmful to the baby if there is some genetic disorder
>> > > > that relatives might be more likely to have.
>> > > >
>> > > > > >> I'm also wondering if the age of consent is too high and I
>> > > > > >> think it will be lowered gradually over the coming years but I
>> > > > > >> think it will take time.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> Now we just have to see how the courts will act and what
>> sentences
>> > > > > >> they give.  I don't imagine much will change there and I will
>> > > disagree
>> > > > > >> with the sentences given.  We can give them the Act but we
>> > > > > >> can't
>> > > force
>> > > > > >> them to use it properly.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> Ann
>> > > >
>> > > > The age of consent has been steadily increasing all over the world.
>> > > > I
>> > > have
>> > > > never heard of AOC going lower anywhere in the past 20 years.
>> > >
>> > > And what age is that? You do not give a starting age.
>> >
>> > Every country (and in the US, every state) has a different age of
>> > consent. I didn't give an age, because there are so many different
>> > ages.  The age
>> of
>> > consent, in the past, has been as low as 10 in some countries.
>> >
>> > > I have head of
>> > > cases where the age has been as young as 13 years old. Is that too
>> young?
>> >
>> > I wasn't commenting on if it was too low or what too low would be.  The
>> > poster had said that they thought the age of consent would be lowered.
>> > I said that I have never heard of the age of consent being lowered,
>> > only raised.  In my state, the age of consent used to be 14, but has
>> > been
>> raised
>> > to 16.  People are talking, now, about raising it to 17 or 18.  I have
>> > never heard any in power talking about lowering it back to 14.  I have
>> > never heard of anyone in power talking about lowering the AOC anywhere,
>> for
>> > anything.  I just don't see it happening in the future.
>>
>> See I do. With the kinds of advertisements we see in US, the very sexy
>> music videos, sex sells everything, and the people selling the ads seem
>> to be younger and younger. The age of girls/guys are lower than they used
>> to be. This is a youth oriented society...I don't know how young, young
>> is...but I don't think it will stay 18 forever either.
>>
>
>But the ages in advertisements have been getting younger and younger, and
>the kids have been getting sexier and sexier (more sexually explicit), but
>the age of consent has been increasing.  Maybe it is a reaction to the
>advertisement, etc.  Whatever it is, I don't think they will lower the age
>of consent.  I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't become 18 in all states.

One minor detail... we were talking about British law and I was
talking about what would happen in Britian, not what would happen in
the US.

Ann

>> > > Many Asian and African countries have pre-arranged marriages, with
>> > > very young brides...read this:
>> > >
>> http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:DwmD2h2RP78C:www.crin.org/docs/resou
>> > >
>> rces/publications/WhoseRighttoChoose.pdf+%2Bcambodia+%2B%22age+of+consent
>> > > %22&hl =en&ie=UTF-8
>> >
>> > This is an interesting article, but is dealing with the age of girls
>> > being forced to marry and not with the age at which a girl (or boy) can
>> > give legal consent to have sex with an adult.