Re: For feminists - The bottom line about rape

Darkfalz wrote:

> > You don't know that. Even if you should provide some cite or other,
> > which I certainly invite you to do, no research is going to have taken
> > into account people who are afraid to tell, such as my daughter was for
> > the first year post-rape. That kind of rape is the *least* likely to be
> > reported, IMO, because the fear factor is cataclysmic. My daughter was
> > told that if she told he would find her and kill her. I believe that the
> > only reason she ultimately *did* tell is because she was raped 2000
> > miles from where she lived, and therefore eventually felt far enough
> > away and traumatised enough to talk. I haven't the slightest doubt that
> > other girls do not tell. One young woman did disclose to my daughter,
> > because she knew my daughter would be supportive as a result of her own
> > experience. To this day, that girl has told nobody else, including her
> > own parents. She is falling apart and in desperate shape, but she has
> > not told. I only know because my daugher talked to me about it.
>
>
> Most likely she had consentual sex with him and is telling you rape because
> she is ashamed of what she did and doesn't want to take responsibility for
> it. Sorry, but it's true.

She hadn't been through puberty yet. The evidence for rape is 
overwhelming. There was no reason to tell me anything, given that nobody 
knew about it until she told, therefore there was nothing for her to 
explain. You have no idea what is 'true'.

> > So, yeah, this is all anecdotal. But again, my direct personal
> > experience leads me to question your assertions, and you've provided no
> > evidence at all to convince me.
>
>
> Stupid behaviours:
>
> * Accepting rides in guys cars when you barely know then
> * Going back to a guys place alone when you barely know him
> * Drinking in excess
> * Being attracted to the bad boy type who's not used to being told no

These are risky, I agree. They don't deserve punishment by rape, though. 
 And most people have done at least one of them at some point.

> These account for 90 of so called "date rape" and "drug rape" (real ones,
> which are the minority compared to accusations).

Again, I invite you to prove it. I don't believe you are right, but I'll 
look at evidence.

> All of them could have been avoided using a little common sense.

If most people have done at least one of them, then how common is it?

Cele