There's no basis for the untoward suspicion...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kate Orman) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rich) wrote in message 

[...]

> > The police should neither believe
> > nor disbelive any women who reports a rape, they should investigate
> > and act on the results of said invesitgation.
> 
> I just said that.

I looked up something you 'just said' and it looks quite different to
me Kate.
 
   From: Kate Orman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
   Subject: Re: Frequent false reports: where's the evidence?  
   Newsgroups: talk.rape
   Date: 2003-11-27 05:22:17 PST

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Waldo Weaver) wrote in message 
   >  How suspicious we are of alleged victims is a question to be resolved
   > *after* we know better how frequently women lie about rape.

   [...]

   Since there's no reason to assume that women are habitual liars, 
   there's no reason for doctors, police, lawyers, judges, juries, or 
   the media to behave as though they are. There's no basis for the 
   untoward suspicion that has helped so many rapists continue their 
   careers. Nor is there a good reason for large efforts to convince 
   folks that rape victims can't be trusted. (Although I must thank you 
   for all the "rape education" postings, which have helpfully provided 
   plenty of evidence that liars don't get off scot free!)

Seems to me your stance is diametrically opposed to the very idea of
not just believing the woman. And I note that you cannot tell the
difference between an accuser and a "rape victim", that is, you 
just believe the woman yourself.

It seems that you oppose the very concept of justice Kate.

And I disagree with both of you, any idiot who thinks that they
can use statistics to evaluate any individal case is so monumentally
ignorant as to defy belief. Regardless of the stats, every case needs
to be investigated individually and actions taken only on the result 
of the investigation.

You say that there us "There's no basis for the untoward suspicion." Since
all that's at stake is a man's future and freedom, I can see why you
have no concerns. But you have it exactly backwards. There is no reason
to belive her. As I said above, the police should neither believe nor
disbelieve a rape accusation, they should investigate and proceed only
on the results of the investigation. They may arrest the man, they
may arrest the woman. But they should *never* just believe the woman.

Rich

> Yours,
> - Kate Orman