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Re: For feminists - The bottom line about rape





Darkfalz wrote:
"Cele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:00:27 +1100, "Darkfalz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


A lot of women get raped by exercising their rights. Their right to dress
slutty and still feel safe. Their right to be alone with a guy they

barely


know, being drunk, and expecting him to respect her boundaries. Their

right


to be sexually assertive, even agressive, but still have the right to say
"no" at any time.

Listen, idiots, this is the bottom line.

You may have the legal right to do any and all of those things, but do

you


WANT to be raped? Or more specifically, would you like to AVOID being

raped?


The answer is probably yes.

Curtailing all of the above behaviours will massively minimise your risk

of


being raped. You have to accept having the right to do something doesn't
make you invincible. I may have the right to provoke someone twice my

size,


but if I do it I'm liable to get my skull cracked. I may have the right

to


walk down a dark alley at night in a bad neighbourhood in expensive

clothes,


but odds are if it happens, I'm going to get mugged - even killed.

Use your common sense and get over this idea that "independence" means
constantly tempting fate by doing stupid things.

Rape (outside of prisons) is avoidable in 99.9% of sitatuations. This

goes


for adult women, naturally a child being abused may not be able to avoid

it,


but if you're an adult then you really have no excuse for not keeping
yourself safe.

So if you don't want to be raped, it's entirely in your hands. And if you
have been raped, for God sakes, LEARN FROM IT and don't let it happen

again.


That's a fascinating take on things.

While I think reasonable safety precautions are a good idea, I'd be
interested to know how you think the victim of Marcellus Jacob invoked
her own rape by her behaviour. In that case, Jacob broke into the home
of a woman he didn't know, duct taped her, raped and sodomised her at
knife point, forced various noxious substances including bear spray
(pepper spray) into her orifices, and otherwise tortured her for five
hours. She was just home minding her own business. Here's the news
report: http://www.whitehorsestar.com/ I was in town at the time. I
remember it well. It was in the press during my own daughter's
hospitalisation for the results of her having been abducted on her way
to school and raped at knifepoint for four and a half or so hours -
different town, different perp.


One thing I forgot to mention was drinking in excess. There has been a
MASSIVE increase in young females binge drinking. Now these women get
totally off their face drunk, fuck a guy they just met, and wake up groggy
as hell in the morning and believe they are a victim of "drug rape" when
they had injested enough alcohol to put them in a coma.

If you can't learn to limit yourself then don't blame others for the
consequences when you get too drunk to think or control yourself.

That has nothing to do with what I said. In the Marcellus Jacob case, the woman was sober and fast asleep in her bed in the middle of the night. My daughter was stone cold sober, on her way to school in the morning. What does this have to do with what I said?


Cele




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