Re: Bad idea: Punishing false accusers

Kate Orman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andre Lieven) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> Kate Orman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (RCB) wrote in message news:<611e5148.0311261918.
>> > 
>> >> Just to give a clear example of societies disregard for mens humanity,
>> >> when there was a poll done asking if people cared about men being
>> >> raped in prison. About 50% of people said men deserve to be raped in
>> >> prison as more punishment for their crimes.
> 
>> > I'd like to see a citation for that - but sadly, I find it easy to 
>> > believe. I think it says more about the way people view criminals, 
>> > rather than men in general - as though they're not actually human, 
>  
>> You'd have a point IF this attitude held true with regard to *woman
>> prisoners*.
> 
> Many women prisoners in the US are raped, sexually assaulted, 
> sexually humiliated, and mistreated by male prison guards. Women 
> in labour are kept shackled, even if they have no history of violence 
> or escape attempts. I'll bet the public *would* be a bit more 
> squeamish if asked if they approved of this, because there's still 
> this perception that male rape is somehow amusing - humiliating 
> and feminising, rather than traumatic and potentially life-theatening.

And, *unlike* with the rape of men in prison, such incidents do
get noticed, and programs to correct such incidents get started.

But, since you're a Koss apopogist, that you would falsify more 
claims, is not a surprise...

> Although many people still believe rape is no big deal,

Feel free to show *some proof* of this claim...

Uh huh.

> the public
> has started to get it through its collective skull that rape can 
> physically and psychologically severely harm women ; it's time 
> they understood that the same is true when the victim is a man.  

So, if a man is " date raped ", and awakes the following morning 
to consider " what was I thinking ? ", he's a rape victim ?

> (When hapless male characters on TV and in films stop havings 
> things oh-so-hilariously inserted into their bottoms, we'll know the
> message is starting to get through.)

<boggle> 
 
> Some light reading:
> 
> http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/
> 
> http://www.amnesty.ca/library/1999/3amr5119.htm

Andre

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