Re: Frequent false reports: where's the evidence? (was: Re: Rape Education Story #60

On 1 Dec 2003 18:00:49 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kate Orman) wrote:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ellen Mercer) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
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>> It is true that the study was sufficiently gutless as to avoid noting
>> the obvious, that falsely-convicted "rapists" got that way
>> overwhelmingly through the falsified or mistaken (careless) testimony
>> of the accuser.
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>Your insistence that the victim must be at fault is a bit tendentious. >:-)

Another major problem is misidentification of the victims.
Especially when the rape was fabricated, but a similar problem 
remains even for cases where the woman misidentifies her rapist. 
Somehow it seems that being raped is free license for a women to
ruin an innocent man's life, for which he will receive generally
nothing, and stay on the offenders register. How can rape
justify putting innocent men in prison Kate? Clearly unless you
see a crisis (and 41% would seem a crisis to anyone with a
conscious), you see no problem. The simple fact is that in the
case of rape, a man's defense is limited, arbitrarily and
often to the extent that important information cannot be used
in testimony. Ya think perhaps that this could be a factor in
innocent men being imprisoned for rape? Probably not.

>An awful lot of innocent men seem to have ended up on death row 
>without a victim's testimony.

How many is that Kate?

>Let's see the evidence that, when DNA 
>clears an innocent man, the victim was lying or somehow negligent.

Let's see the evidence that "unfounded" rapes are cases where the
woman was actually raped but there was not enough evidence to convict.

And again you misidentify the victim. That is the heart of your
problem Kate, you don't care about the victim, you care only about
women. Which is of course exactly and only what feminism is about.

Do you believe that men falsely accused of rape should learn from
the experience Kate?

One of Waldo's cases involved a women who had made 7 false rape
accusations. What do you think she learned from the experience?
That it'll land her in prison? 

Rich

>Yours,
>- Kate Orman