Re: Rape Education Story #60

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ellen Mercer) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
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> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ellen Mercer) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
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> > > > Magic Nose Goblin wrote:
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kate Orman) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > > > 
> > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sky King) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>"All men are rapists and that's all they are" -- Marilyn French,
> > > > >>>Author, "The Women's Room"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>"My feelings about men are the result of my experience. I have little
> > > > >>>sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau, I watch the
> > > > >>>handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet
> > > > >>>in his stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don't even need to
> > > > >>>shrug. I simply don't care. What he was, as a person, I mean, what his
> > > > >>>shames and yearnings were, simply don't matter." -- Marilyn French, in
> > > > >>>"The Women's Room"
> > > > >>
> > > > >>"The Women's Room" is a fictional novel. These comments are made by 
> > > > >>fictional characters
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > i.e. they are an expression of MARILYN FRENCH's thoughts.
> > > > 
> > > > Yep, that's how literature works, as any college literature professor 
> > > > can explain.
> > > 
> > > If you want to prove that Marilyn French is a crazed radfem (that's
> > 
> > Either SHE is a crazed radfem, or she's modelling her characters
> > after other REAL LIFE crazed radfems.
> > 
> > Either way, the quotes from her characters do NOT just appear out of
> > a vacuum.  Either they are Marilyn French's thoughts, or they are based
> > on the quotes of other women.
> > 
> > there is NO other possibility.
> 
> So an author of a fictional work is limited only to verbatim
> repetition of phrases that s/he has heard IRW? It isn't possible to
> generate new statements to  attribute to his or her characters?

It's a mindset.  Either one she invented (INSIDE HER OWN HEAD), or
one she is modelling (i.e. observed in others)

Regardless...her character's thoughts are a reflection of SOME reality.

The only question is this: does that reality exist in other women,
in the author herself, or both.

That it does exist is indisputable, or else, it COULD NOT ever have
found its way to the written word.

> 
> > If you believe otherwise, then you are a self-deluded fool.
> 
> So you like to argue and pre-emptive insults, irrespective of whether
> the topic of your argument has anything to do with your overall point.
> You must be a very bitter guy. Why don't you tell us what it is that
> is really bothering you? What did they *do* to you, anyway?
> 
> Regarding your question, I believe that an author of fiction can have
> one of his characters say something that he's never heard another
> person say. I certainly did as much in my creative writing classes,
> back in the day.

Again, if Marilyn French is NOT repeating, verbatim, the words of others,
then she is INVENTING THOSE QUOTES HERSELF...i.e. those quotes are a
reflection OF HER OWN THOUGHTS.

Or are you proposing the theory that aliens take posession of her body
when she starts writing.