Re: Rape Education Story #60

"Magic Nose Goblin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Ann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:06:36 -0800, "P Diddy"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Ann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:25:47 -0700, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Ann wrote:
> > >> >> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:57:43 -0700, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>>Ann wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>>On 28 Nov 2003 21:44:06 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Magic Nose
> > >> >>>>Goblin) wrote:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>>>"The Women's Room" is a fictional novel. These comments are
made by
> > >> >>>>>>fictional characters
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>i.e. they are an expression of MARILYN FRENCH's thoughts.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>It's a scary thought that you believe that an author can only
give the
> > >> >>>>characters in the novel her own thoughts and views.  Whatever do
we
> > >> >>>>make of JK Rowling then?
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>Ann
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>That's how literature works, Ann.  The authors of literature use
> > >> >>>"fictional" characters to say, explain, and act out their views
and
> > >> >>>philosophy.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> They do sometimes but not always.  And even if it were so in this
> > >> >> case, quoting what a character in a book says as if it were said
by
> > >> >> the author is a nonsense.
> > >> >
> > >> >LOL.  How many times have you heard Shakespeare quoted? That is how
> > >> >literature is analyzed and studied. Your lack of education is
readily
> > >> >apparent.
> > >>
> > >> LOL... you're funny.  You need to learn the difference between
fiction
> > >> and reality.  Here's a tip... when you hear a Shakespearian quote, it
> > >> wasn't Shakespeare himself saying the line, it was one of his
> > >> characters.  We don't actually know who Shakespeare was so we can't
> > >> know much about him. <aside: I bet the Americans think they know more
> > >> about who he really was than the Brits do>
> > >
> > >Huh???  http://shakespeare.palomar.edu/timeline/timeline.htm
> >
> > Read this, it's interesting.  It's only the first thing I found doing
> > a google search so there may be better to be found.
> >
> > http://www.erp.oissel.onac.org/anglais/shakespeare.htm
> >
>
> Regardless of all of that twaddle....the characters in an author's book
> can ONLY express the THOUGHTS OF THE AUTHOR....for if the author did
> not think those things, then they would never be put down on paper for
> the character to say.
>
> And if they are NOT the thoughts of the author, then the ideas were
> conveyed to the author...BY SOMEONE ELSE
>
> So, yes, EVERY misandristic quote in Marilyn French's books indicates that
> at least ONE person does indeed think what those characters are saying....
> or else HOW would those thoughts get put into her character's mouths?
>
>
> Well???
>
>
> We're waiting for a clear, cogent, non-evasive answer....
>
> (tapping foot)

(got your arms crossed across your chest too?)    smile


>
> > Ann
> >
> > >>
> > >> >>>Perhaps you might benefit from a beginning class in
> > >> >>>literature at your local college.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It can be enlightening to hear what a teacher has to say about an
> > >> >> author's work and then to hear what the author themselves has to
say
> > >> >> about it.  What they say does not always agree.
> > >> >
> > >> >That is how literature is analyzed and studied.
> > >>
> > >> And a lot of the conclusions drawn are twaddle.  You're not an
English
> > >> graduate are you?... oh dear!
> > >>
> > >> Ann
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >Your lack of education
> > >> >is readily apparent.
> > >> >
> > >> >> A few years ago there was a man who took the English Literature
exam
> > >> >> answering the questions pertaining to his own book and he failed
the
> > >> >> exam.  Anyone remember who that was?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I haven't done literature past 'O' level which dates me, but I did
do
> > >> >> a module of Philosphy in Literature at university some of which
was
> > >> >> total twaddle.  It left me loving Kafka's stuff though so it
wasn't
> > >> >> all bad.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>>Rowling's books are far from literature, but still have characters
who
> > >> >>>portray loyalty, creativity, her values of good vs. bad, etc.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> And what about when bad triumphs over good.  Do we then assume
that
> > >> >> the author is basically bad?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Ann
> > >> >
> > >> >"Me thinks she doth protest too much."
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >Bob
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >