Re: Rape Education Story #60

Ann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:06:36 -0800, "P Diddy"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> >"Ann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:25:47 -0700, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Ann wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:57:43 -0700, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>Ann wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>On 28 Nov 2003 21:44:06 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Magic Nose
> >> >>>>Goblin) wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>"The Women's Room" is a fictional novel. These comments are made by
> >> >>>>>>fictional characters
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>i.e. they are an expression of MARILYN FRENCH's thoughts.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>It's a scary thought that you believe that an author can only give the
> >> >>>>characters in the novel her own thoughts and views.  Whatever do we
> >> >>>>make of JK Rowling then?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Ann
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>That's how literature works, Ann.  The authors of literature use
> >> >>>"fictional" characters to say, explain, and act out their views and
> >> >>>philosophy.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> They do sometimes but not always.  And even if it were so in this
> >> >> case, quoting what a character in a book says as if it were said by
> >> >> the author is a nonsense.
> >> >
> >> >LOL.  How many times have you heard Shakespeare quoted? That is how
> >> >literature is analyzed and studied. Your lack of education is readily
> >> >apparent.
> >>
> >> LOL... you're funny.  You need to learn the difference between fiction
> >> and reality.  Here's a tip... when you hear a Shakespearian quote, it
> >> wasn't Shakespeare himself saying the line, it was one of his
> >> characters.  We don't actually know who Shakespeare was so we can't
> >> know much about him. <aside: I bet the Americans think they know more
> >> about who he really was than the Brits do>
> >
> >Huh???  http://shakespeare.palomar.edu/timeline/timeline.htm
> 
> Read this, it's interesting.  It's only the first thing I found doing
> a google search so there may be better to be found.
> 
> http://www.erp.oissel.onac.org/anglais/shakespeare.htm
> 

Regardless of all of that twaddle....the characters in an author's book
can ONLY express the THOUGHTS OF THE AUTHOR....for if the author did
not think those things, then they would never be put down on paper for
the character to say.

And if they are NOT the thoughts of the author, then the ideas were
conveyed to the author...BY SOMEONE ELSE

So, yes, EVERY misandristic quote in Marilyn French's books indicates that
at least ONE person does indeed think what those characters are saying....
or else HOW would those thoughts get put into her character's mouths?


Well???


We're waiting for a clear, cogent, non-evasive answer....

(tapping foot)

> Ann
> 
> >>
> >> >>>Perhaps you might benefit from a beginning class in
> >> >>>literature at your local college.
> >> >>
> >> >> It can be enlightening to hear what a teacher has to say about an
> >> >> author's work and then to hear what the author themselves has to say
> >> >> about it.  What they say does not always agree.
> >> >
> >> >That is how literature is analyzed and studied.
> >>
> >> And a lot of the conclusions drawn are twaddle.  You're not an English
> >> graduate are you?... oh dear!
> >>
> >> Ann
> >>
> >>
> >> >Your lack of education
> >> >is readily apparent.
> >> >
> >> >> A few years ago there was a man who took the English Literature exam
> >> >> answering the questions pertaining to his own book and he failed the
> >> >> exam.  Anyone remember who that was?
> >> >>
> >> >> I haven't done literature past 'O' level which dates me, but I did do
> >> >> a module of Philosphy in Literature at university some of which was
> >> >> total twaddle.  It left me loving Kafka's stuff though so it wasn't
> >> >> all bad.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>Rowling's books are far from literature, but still have characters who
> >> >>>portray loyalty, creativity, her values of good vs. bad, etc.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> And what about when bad triumphs over good.  Do we then assume that
> >> >> the author is basically bad?
> >> >>
> >> >> Ann
> >> >
> >> >"Me thinks she doth protest too much."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Bob
> >> >
> >>
> >