Re: Rape Education Story #60

Ann wrote:
> On 29 Nov 2003 15:03:22 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Magic Nose
> Goblin) wrote:
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> > Ann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
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> > > On 28 Nov 2003 21:44:06 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Magic Nose
> > > Goblin) wrote:
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> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kate Orman) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
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> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sky King) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
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> > > > > > "All men are rapists and that's all they are" -- Marilyn French,
> > > > > > Author, "The Women's Room"
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> > > > > > "My feelings about men are the result of my experience. I have little
> > > > > > sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau, I watch the
> > > > > > handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet
> > > > > > in his stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don't even need to
> > > > > > shrug. I simply don't care. What he was, as a person, I mean, what his
> > > > > > shames and yearnings were, simply don't matter." -- Marilyn French, in
> > > > > > "The Women's Room"
> > > > >
> > > > > "The Women's Room" is a fictional novel. These comments are made by 
> > > > > fictional characters
> > > >
> > > > i.e. they are an expression of MARILYN FRENCH's thoughts.
> > >
> > > It's a scary thought that you believe that an author can only give the
> > > characters in the novel her own thoughts and views.
> >
> > So you're saying that those thoughts are NOT Marilyns, but, in fact,
> > those of SOMEONE ELSE???
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> You don't understand what fiction is then?  If someone writes a story
> about killing the pope does it mean that they have a desire to do so?
> If the character in the book says, "I really hate that man because
> he's a devout catholic", do we have to assume that the writer hates
> catholics?  Maybe it's true and a case could be put for it using other
> evidence but to quote the writer as having said "I hate the pope" is
> daft.


You don't understand what literature is then?  Authors write stories to 
tell their philosophical beliefs and use characters to express their 
opinions.  You ought to hear feminist literary theorists go after D. H. 
Lawrence some time.

Fiction is sometimes "just a story" but most of the time it's the 
authors view of the word being expressed by drama.


> > Thanks for asserting the original point which you disputed, dumbass.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Whatever do we make of JK Rowling then?
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> > I don't get into wacky wiccans, so I don't read that shit.
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> I've not read it either but I thought it was a children's story not a
> wiccan thing.  You obviously got that book wrong too.  Not good at
> books are you?
> Ann

Since J.K.Rowling isn't Wiccan, and the Harry Potter books do not 
describe anything remotely Wiccan, there is no connection with Wicca. 
In fact, the Potter books use celebrations of "Christmas" as a major 
plot element.

Bob