Re: Rape Education Story #60

On 29 Nov 2003 15:03:22 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Magic Nose
Goblin) wrote:

>Ann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> On 28 Nov 2003 21:44:06 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Magic Nose
>> Goblin) wrote:
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>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kate Orman) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sky King) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> >> 
>> >> > "All men are rapists and that's all they are" -- Marilyn French,
>> >> > Author, "The Women's Room"
>>  
>> >> > "My feelings about men are the result of my experience. I have little
>> >> > sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau, I watch the
>> >> > handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet
>> >> > in his stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don't even need to
>> >> > shrug. I simply don't care. What he was, as a person, I mean, what his
>> >> > shames and yearnings were, simply don't matter." -- Marilyn French, in
>> >> > "The Women's Room"
>> >> 
>> >> "The Women's Room" is a fictional novel. These comments are made by 
>> >> fictional characters
>> >
>> >i.e. they are an expression of MARILYN FRENCH's thoughts.
>> 
>> It's a scary thought that you believe that an author can only give the
>> characters in the novel her own thoughts and views.
>
>So you're saying that those thoughts are NOT Marilyns, but, in fact,
>those of SOMEONE ELSE???

You don't understand what fiction is then?  If someone writes a story
about killing the pope does it mean that they have a desire to do so?
If the character in the book says, "I really hate that man because
he's a devout catholic", do we have to assume that the writer hates
catholics?  Maybe it's true and a case could be put for it using other
evidence but to quote the writer as having said "I hate the pope" is
daft.

>Thanks for asserting the original point which you disputed, dumbass.
>
>
>> Whatever do we make of JK Rowling then?
>
>I don't get into wacky wiccans, so I don't read that shit.

I've not read it either but I thought it was a children's story not a
wiccan thing.  You obviously got that book wrong too.  Not good at
books are you?

Ann

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>> 
>> Ann
>> 
>> >
>> >> severely damaged by their experiences of rape 
>> >> and injustice. To attribute them to French herself is extremely 
>> >> misleading and unfair.
>> >
>> >Are you claiming that Marilyn French did not come up with those lines
>> >all by herself...that SOMEONE else said those things to her???
>> >
>> >
>> >>                         Read the novel to discover a variety of
>> >> feminist viewpoints, and even a heroic male character who saves a
>> >> woman from rape.
>> >
>> >You say *even* as if that is somehow out of the norm for male behavior....
>> >
>> >
>> >> 
>> >> Yours,
>> >> - Kate Orman