Re: Rape Education Story #60

Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Magic Nose Goblin wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kate Orman) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > 
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sky King) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
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> >>
> >>>"All men are rapists and that's all they are" -- Marilyn French,
> >>>Author, "The Women's Room"
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>>"My feelings about men are the result of my experience. I have little
> >>>sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau, I watch the
> >>>handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet
> >>>in his stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don't even need to
> >>>shrug. I simply don't care. What he was, as a person, I mean, what his
> >>>shames and yearnings were, simply don't matter." -- Marilyn French, in
> >>>"The Women's Room"
> >>
> >>"The Women's Room" is a fictional novel. These comments are made by 
> >>fictional characters
> > 
> > 
> > i.e. they are an expression of MARILYN FRENCH's thoughts.
> 
> Yep, that's how literature works, as any college literature professor 
> can explain.

If you want to prove that Marilyn French is a crazed radfem (that's
rather like shooting fish in a barrel), you're gonna have to do better
than to take the emotional, context-specific words of her literary
characters and attribute them to French herself. By this kind of
logic, authors from Stephen King to Shakespear can be said to be in
favor of mass murder.

Perhaps you can enlighten us about the Big Picture regarding French
and why you feel it is appropriate to characterize her in this way.
OK, I will do it myself. She's made her insane hatred and simplistic,
stereotypical viewpoints about those so horrible as to be born with a
penis apparent in her nonfiction screeds. She's one of the
all-too-common extremist, grotesquely unfair feminazis who does her
thinking without the benefit of the neocortex to characterize men as
rapists, radically hateful of women out of (for example) their
jealousy about their inability to bear children and be mothers, etc
etc. Snore. It is part of the mentality that only men commit crimes,
only men are bad and women are saintly. This all sounds very familiar,
no?

In short, it is not at all difficult to find damningly hateful and
simplistic quotes from French without having to refer to her fictional
characters. Try the one for example about how Italian men are proud
when an Italian man rapes a tourist. Yawn.


> >>severely damaged by their experiences of rape 
> >>and injustice. To attribute them to French herself is extremely 
> >>misleading and unfair.
> > 
> > 
> > Are you claiming that Marilyn French did not come up with those lines
> > all by herself...that SOMEONE else said those things to her???
> 
> Her books show her beliefs.  That's how literature works.
> 
> Bob
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> >>                        Read the novel to discover a variety of
> >>feminist viewpoints, and even a heroic male character who saves a
> >>woman from rape.
> > 
> > You say *even* as if that is somehow out of the norm for male behavior....
> >>Yours,
> >>- Kate Orman