Re: Bad idea: Punishing false accusers

Rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message:
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> Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> Rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message: 
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>> > I note that you seem against any real solution as well. I'm not
>> > quite sure why. Punishing guilty women is the solution, it's the
>> > only solution.
>> 
>> Has punishing guilty (not to mention not-guilty) men been a solution
>> to rape?  Or anything else?
> 
> It prevents serial rapists from peddling their trade.

Does it?
 
> Don't get me wrong, we have far too many in prison for the wrong
> things, but there are some crimes for which prison seems to be a 
> good idea. Murder for starters. 

Depends on the circumstances of the murder, for one;  on the person guilty 
of it, for another.
 
> As I long ago said and Daran disagreed with, if rape is a serious
> crime so are false rape accusations. 

As i recall, Daran's point could be demonstrated like this:

If you call me a rapist now, i don't think my world will fall apart.  i 
wouldn't regard it as very serious at all.  Formalised false accusations 
(esp. to the police etc) are a serious crime, and i'm quietly confident 
that Daran agrees with that.
 
> Issues like police and judicial bias, DA's falsifying evidence and
> hiding evidence that would exhonerate (or cast doubt on) the accused's
> guilt, the planting of evidence, DA's caring more about their
> conviction record than that they convict only the guilty and a host of
> other issues are, I think, the real problems. Before I'd even finished
> typing 5 other serious problems occurred to me, but if I'm sure
> everyone here can add to the list.
> 
> I recall asking but not what you answered.

Me neither.  :-)
 
> What would you do about rapists?

Depends on the rapist.
 
> What would you do about false rape accusers?

Depends on the accuser.

i don't regard either of these groups as homogenous.  Society needs to be 
protected from the members of these groups who present an ongoing threat, 
which is by no means all of them.  How society might do that is debatable.  
As for punishment, i'm not a fan.
 
> Rich

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Neil