Re: Bad idea: Punishing false accusers

"RCB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Darkfalz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > "Waldo Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > This has cropped up in a few places, but I'm going to start a new
> > > thread. Personally, I think false accusation is a disgusting crime,
> > > and the women who do it are common criminals, but I don't think
> > > stiffening the punishment for  false accusation is the answer. Here's
> > > why. Suppose we make false accusation a serious felony, with a jail
> > > term of, say, 8 to 15 years. I take it this will have  two effects:
> > >  1) Few women will recant, so more innocent men will go  through
> > > trials,  and go to and stay in prison.
> > >  2) The proven rate of false accusations will drop like a rock because
> > > no one will recant, and the police still won't bother to prosecute it
> > > because: a) the police are women, or b) the police are men who feel
> > > sorry for the poor woman.
> > >
> > >  So the net result would be more innocent suffering men, and a bunch
> > > of feminists delighted because false accusation rates are low. Sort of
> > > a worst case outcome.
> >
> > A superb post. It seems there is really nothing that can be done about
them.
> > The worst thing, of course, is that an accuser is, by the public at
least,
> > automatically considers to be telling the truth and the accused is
> > automatically presumed guilty, even with the overwhelming number of
false
> > accusations. So with it being so easy to accuse, the MASSIVE damage it
does
> > to the man, and the lack of a suitable penalty (heck, the accused man
has
> > his name splashed across the news but the accuser is kept private, even
when
> > she is busted) it's little wonder it has gotten out of control.
>
> thats why it scares me that jaynes idea is so widely accepted on this
> board alone. The value of mens innocence is so unimportant that the
> best temporary idea is to be more lenient to false accusing women.
>
> Just to give a clear example of societies disregard for mens humanity,
> when there was a poll done asking if people cared about men being
> raped in prison. About 50% of people said men deserve to be raped in
> prison as more punishment for their crimes.
>
> Now you have to think about that long and hard for it to really sink
> it. Almost fifty percent of the entire 270 million people of this
> country think its ok to rape a human being, so long as its a man. Do
> you think those people would say its ok if they asked if women should
> be raped in prison? that question would not even be allowed to be
> asked, it would be a crime to answer it. Think about how profound that
> truth is.
>
> Its no wonder that society really cares so little for innocent men
> being raped of their lives by the courts. The bottom line is that if
> you are a man in this country, your life is just a hair more important
> than your neighbors dog.
>
> The harlot of babylon sits atop her mountain of riches and laughs at
> the plight of men. The devil has never been so successful than in
> todays world.

Telling insights, my friend.