Re: Women don't lie about rape.

Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
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> > Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> <snipping where i have little to add or disagree with>
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> >> This context contradicts the absolute 'never' impression, 
> > 
> > Clearly, but this is what's there. And I daresay that if you read
> > the literature at any such orginization, it will say pretty much the
> > same thing.
> > 
> >> hence the need to minimise it, but more importantly it contradicts a 
> >> previous claim of mine in discussion with you about absolute
> >> statements (at least, i think it does.  i can't remember what i
> >> said).  i probably owe you an apology, although i personally think
> >> that the wording of these organisations is (deliberately) sloppy.
> > 
> > Perhaps it's like lumping all sort of non-violent things in with
> > the DV stats to inflate the DV numbers? It's like lumping rape and
> > attempted rape together and implying that your figures are for rape.
> 
> i suppose a similar mentality lies behind both.
> 
> Wrt your comments on DV stats, yes, it's wrong to do it, although non-
> physical abuse ought to still be recognised as abuse (and no less serious 
> for that), albeit (statistically) perhaps under a different category.

And what exactly is "non-physical abuse"? Who draws the lines?

> As an aside, should the punishment for attempted rape (or attempted 
> anything else) be less than that for (completed) rape (etc)?  i think 
> that it tends to be, which has always struck me as odd.

You would convict someone for something they did not do? Interesting.
And who determines that they were attempting rape (as opposed to some
other crime, or some misunderstanding)?

Rich

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> > Rich
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> > 
> > Erratum: I finally recovered the data I had thought lost on the
> >          computer I fixed a bit ago. I was afraid to boot it up
> >          lest I overwrite the data. Perhaps I'll respond again to
> >          JJ's email. I recall reading of someone who sent a postcard
> >          and email every day for a year as a test. Every postcard
> >          arrived, but quite a few emails did not.
> 
> Clearly he wasn't sending his postcards from either the UK or SE Asia.  
> ;-)

Indeed. :^/  BTW, remembered the source. "Silicon Snake Oil", a very
good book.