Re: Bad idea: Punishing false accusers

"Alan Mackenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 24 Nov 2003
> 02:00:32 GMT:
>
> Hi, Rich, how's life?
>
> > On 23 Nov 2003 16:36:56 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Waldo Weaver)
> > wrote:
>
> > Many TR regulars don't even think that they [false rape allegations]
> > should be specifically against the law, and that a man so accused is
> > not a victim. This kind of sentiment certainly is not helpful.
>
> Let me clarify what TR regulars have typically and repeatedly maintained
> in discussion, sometimes lengthy, with Rich:  Malicious FRA's should
> indeed be punished; Non-malicious ones shouldn't;  the standard of proof
> required to prosecute a malicious false allegation should be the same as
> for any other crime, namely proof beyond reasonable doubt;  FRAs don't
> need to be _specifically_ unlawful, as long as they are covered by a more
> general law.
>
> I believe that Rich, unlike most tr regulars, doesn't distinguish between
> malicious and non-malicious FRAs.

Then one must get into what the *defintion* of malicious false allegation
is.
What constitutes it? "No means no"...that was clear and concise. Everything
else
is ambiguous. A woman gets hot and heavy....in her MIND, will only let
things get but
so far, but her BODY says something different...he senses that...he
pushes...she submits,
has sex...then feels guilty. She feels as through the man took advantage of
her...he forced her...
he *raped* her, so she reports it. Is her act malicious?


> > I note that you seem against any real solution as well. I'm not quite
> > sure why. Punishing guilty women is the solution, it's the only
> > solution.
>
> I certainly think that women guilty of such crimes should be punished,
> but how much that would solve I'm more sceptical about.
>
> > Rich
>
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> Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany)
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