Re: Women don't lie about rape.

Rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message:
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> I noted in passing that Daran had been unable to find anyone
> who says that women never lie about rape.
> 
> Seems lots of orginizations say just that. I wonder why his
> google search failed.

For the same reason that yours did (Hi Rich) - all of your cites say 
pretty much (if not exactly) the same thing, that women don't lie about 
rape and that the rate of false reports is 2 (-4)%.  None of them say, 
explicitly, that women *never* lie about rape.

But actually, i'm glad that you raised the subject again because it made 
me think about it again.  Clearly the 'women don't lie' line is intended 
to convey the message that they never lie - and clearly following it with 
the ("only") 2% claim is intended to dismiss the number that do as being 
negligible.  This context contradicts the absolute 'never' impression, 
hence the need to minimise it, but more importantly it contradicts a 
previous claim of mine in discussion with you about absolute statements 
(at least, i think it does.  i can't remember what i said).  i probably 
owe you an apology, although i personally think that the wording of these 
organisations is (deliberately) sloppy.
 
> As for Daran's claim that the number of false rape accusations
> is probably in the double digits (i.e., less than 100), that's
> silly. Kanin's study alone found 109. Walter (??) has posted
> over 60, one women in the list made 7 false rape accusations.

His 'double digit' claim was for convictions, not accusations.  As there 
appear to have been around 700 (i think) overturned convictions (for all 
crimes) to date in the US, i suspect that he's a little low with that 
claim, but not much.  That doesn't mean that there aren't more - he was 
talking about what he'd seen evidence for, and clearly a lot of evidence 
isn't made available.
 
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> Rich (who needs an ISP with news). 

-- 
Neil