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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (DEDHeather94) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Lots of dynamics while I've been away it seems - some of them very strange.
> 
> Hi JJ!  Missed you.  :)
> 
> >Rather than scrolling endlessly back to find the OP BTW, my belated best
> >wishes to Ann on her good news. I hope that doesn't qualify me for TRIS
> >sycophancy. Well actually... I don't *give* a fuck - sorry Ellen.
> >
> >"David Lee Kollberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> "DEDHeather94" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> > I'm not sure why the love for Sky King all of a sudden, but I think
>  David
>  is
> >> > angry because several of you have been trying to actually reason with
>  the
> >> > Ellen-troll.
> >>
> >> This is certainly an aspect.
> >
> >Oh dear, I do hope not. That would mean that you are feigning a mock concern
> >for Terry's treatment on this ng as means of revenge for other members of
> >the group not supporting your attempt to dismiss the Lady Ellen. By any
> >standards that is rather a shallow and mean-minded tactic, David. I thought
> >you better than that. I would point out that it is also rather implausible,
> >given your past posting history with the 'counsellor' from New England.
> >
> >>
> >> > David, I'm not talking about you, ok? I don't want to be guilty of doing
>  what
> >> > I just yelled at Daran for.  lol   The rest of this is addressed to you.
> >
> >Well I am - I can 'do Daran' better than Daran if I want ;-). I'm just not
> >as methodical about it as he is... Oh, and Daran and I have several times
> >clashed on the issue of his piety - I doubt we need to do so again, but he
> >knows my position on it, and I know his.
> >
> >> >
> >> > I totally understand your frustration with that and I've shared some of
>  it
> >> > myself.
> >>
> >> Okay.
> >
> >I don't. The Lady Ellen is there for consideration - take her or leave her.
> >I wouldn't presume to judge the reaction of others in that respect.
> 
> Right, to each their own.  I'm not judging them either because I get where
> they're coming from.  Just wanted to explain my take on it to David because I
> sort of guessed where *he* was coming from and I didn't want him to carry
> around that misconception.  I've been where he was before.  I used to be
> obnoxious about it too--making posts asking WHY are you people even talking to
> (whoever) like it's a person??  lol
> 
>  I find
> >it immature for David to post repeated contentless posts about her when she
> >has demonstrated that she won't respond to them, but I would have refrained
> >from commenting upon that if it were the only symptom of whatever ails him.
> 
> Yeah that's clearly post-humping.  :D
> 
> >He's straying dangerously close to obnoxious though with the recent attack
> >on Cele. We may fall out over it if such behaviour continues. I give fair
> >warning.
> 
> That's what pissed me off too.
> 
> >>
> >> > But like Cele explained to me it's just the "head people" having their
> >> > go at *it*.
> >>
> >> I can see that. However it's not merely frustrating, it's also
>  contradictory
> >> behavior with respect to the total lack of even the smallest amount of
> >> courtesy towards Sky, if you ask me.
> >
> >This is risible given David's posting history with Terry, not to mention
> >rather pathetic - see above.
> >
> >>
> >> > I suspect you're a "heart people" like me.  I don't see the point
> >> > either in flattering the troll by calling it intelligent but that's
>  Daran.
> >>
> >> In truth I don't mind much if Daran does that, on condition that he also
> >> doesn't start confronting *me* regarding my actions in relation to Ellen.
> >> It's rather annoying to witness how Daran shows general esteem for an
> >> obvious troll, but finds it necessary to reprimand me on several occasions
> >> when talking to Ellen. I essentially don't want to get caught up in those
> >> kinds of games, certainly not when I got little to do with them.
> >
> >You have everything to do with them, David. I have noticed a distinct
> >tendency on your part to post one-liners in response to the Lady, even after
> >it is clear they are not provoking a response. That is chasing the ace - all
> >it gets you is increasingly frustrated and angry. I suggest you don't do
> >it - but if you want to do it, don't take out your frustrations on the rest
> >of the group. Don't pretend you think Terry is God's Gift to Usenet (when
> >everyone knows you don't), and don't take cheap shots against other
> >regulars. Or if you do, be prepared to forfeit what Lady Ellen would call
> >our cosy willingness to support our Inner Sanctum right or wrong.
> >
> >>
> >> > Like several others here he tries to find the good in people, and like
>  several
> >> > others he also tries to present the flaws in their arguments (or in the
> >> > Ellen-troll's case her persistent whines) by using logic.
> >>
> >> This sounds unusually philanthropic, if you ask me, and I don't suppose
> >> Daran is *that* altruistic (even if he's a nice enough guy). I think
>  that -
> >> if he would be doing the same with other (more deserving) people - I maybe
> >> could appreciate it better. Besides, why doesn't he try this same strategy
> >> with Sky, then? Because that would be a real challenge (and not merely a
> >> game). In my honest opinion Sky is at least as trustworthy as Ellen is.
> >
> >He did. I remember it. It didn't work. One thing you cannot accuse Daran of
> >is inconsistency, or lack of courage in applying his principles. He gave
> >Terry every opportunity - each one scorned. It's one of the reasons why I
> >treat Lady Ellen's apologies for him with the contempt they deserve. Terry's
> >had his fill of chances here, and like many others I know from personal
> >memory how thoroughly nasty, vicious and callous he can be - in particular
> >to visitors of t.r.he drove away. I don't need to Google Terry - I know him
> >first-hand. I nevertheless started a debate with him after his latest
> >'challenge' - don't believe I've had a sensible response yet?
> >
> >[...]
> >
> >John James (JJ)
> 
> 
> All well said. :)
> 
> Heather


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