Re: CHALLENGE FOR T.R. REGULARS

"Baba Yaga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "David Lee Kollberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, in
> talk.rape:
>
> >Ellen is not a real person, Laurie.
>
> How dare you.

It is easy for me to think my own thoughts, BY. To me Ellen is simply not a
real person. She probably isn't even a woman. And even if she were a woman,
she's certainly not the Ellen she's portraying here. I hope you don't think
that Jack Nicholson is a raving psychopath that is bound to slash is wife
and child?

> (Yes, I'd have said the same to Heather had she not
> already been showing considerable signs of feeling beleagured under
> criticism.  I find such comments *profoundly* objectionable.)

It is anyone's privilege to find my comments objectionable. That in itself
doesn't change my mind, though. Do you have some reasoned arguments why my
comments are so objectionable (seeing that Ellen hasn't spared a single
person here, except for Sky, and also taking into account that nearly
everyone she spoke to thinks she's a complete fraud)?

> Of course Ellen's a real person.  You contend that she's a troll: is
> the humanity of a troll any less than that of any other person?

Ellen will never be more than a cartoon character to me. She could be a
creation of an artist, or something. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but this
is how I truly perceive her. Some people even call her "it", but I wouldn't
go that far. She has a human aspect to her, but she certainly isn't real.
That's why she cannot count on my sympathy. *You* can have my sympathy,
hell, even Sky can have some, but she simply cannot have any. Why? It's a
gut feeling I have and it just won't go away.

> Would
> harm to a troll be any less than that to any other person?

Harm to a cartoon character isn't real. Ellen isn't a real person.

Is it really this problematical for you to understand someone else's
opinions, even if they are rather contradictory to yours?

DLK

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I would never want to belong to a group that would accept someone like me as
a member.
-- Groucho Marx

>
> <<snarling and growling>>
>
> Baba Yaga
> -- 
> And to do any good at all, just believing you're right and your
> motives are good isn't enough.  You have to... be in touch.
>  - Ursula le Guin