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Re: Unanswered Questions
- __From__: Jonathan Ball
- __Subject__: Re: Unanswered Questions
- __Date__: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:50:26 -0600
Rat & Swan wrote:
Rick wrote:
Another sniveling, goose stepping Bushzi -
Good term -- I'll have to remember it.
Have you seen the step-by-step comparison between Bush's
takeover and the Nazi takeover in 1933-4? It's almost
a one-to-one correspondence.
It's complete bullshit.
We are living is a fascist state, quite literally.
No, we are not. You are proving the truth of what
Orwell wrote:
"The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so
far as it signifies 'something not desirable.'"
George Orwell
"Politics and the English Language", 1946
You hate the U.S., for all the things that make it
great, most especially for being capitalist and for,
more than anyplace else, protecting individual
liberties against the collectivist tyranny you wish to
impose. Because you hate the U.S. and are a
garden-variety leftist/collectivist, you reflexively
call the U.S. "fascist", but it's only because you
don't like the U.S. from a leftist/collectivist
perspective, not because the U.S is fascist.
We had a chancellor appointed
without an electoral majority,
No, we didn't. Bush obtained a majority vote of the
Electoral College, the constitutionally provided method
of selecting the U.S. President.
Anyway, even in parliamentary countries, a prime
minister often is selected from a party that doesn't
have a parliamentary majority. That is not fascist.
AGAIN, you prove only that you hate the U.S.
the rounding up of
political opponents into the first concentration camp at
Guantanomo,
No, not "political opponents", liar. Non-citizen enemy
combatants, captured on foreign soil in combat with the
U.S. armed forces.
You just can't help lying.
our Reichstag fire ( 9/11 -- there's
evidence Bush knew about it beforehand,
Show it, liar.
just as Hitler
knew the Reichstag fire was planned, but didn't know the
details personally),
In fact, traitor, the accepted belief is that the Nazis
set the Reichstag fire. You are now accusing the U.S.
government of *committing* the 9/11 terrorist attacks,
by virtue of your fatuous comparison.
followed by our Enabling Act (the
Patriot Act) gutting civil rights.
The misnamed "Patriot" Act does not gut civil
liberties. It is a threat to some of them, and I have
hopes that the worst excesses of it will be thrown out
in court. Unlike in Nazi Germany, our courts will take
a hard look at it, and if the Supreme Court rules parts
of it unconstitutional, those parts will be discarded.
Also unlike Nazi Germany, some of the Republican
legislators who supported the passage of the act are
calling for reconsideration of parts of it. Neither
the justices nor the legislators are threatened with
imprisonment or death. Your comparison is utterly
specious.
There are parts of the "Patriot" Act that are necessary
correctives to outdated laws. One that immediately
springs to mind is the ability to obtain a wiretap
authorization on a person, not just a phone line. This
is a necessary and good change, and is not in any way
"fascist".
Like Hitler, Bush
has tried to turn people's attention away from
domestic problems by Glorious Foreign War, but his
Stalingrad has come a bit earlier than Hitler's. But,
unlike Hitler, who took a country in a depression and
revived the economy (temporarily), Bush has CREATED
a depression and destroyed the healthy economy and
surplus he inherited from Clinton.
Bush did not inherit a health economy from Clinton.
The dot-com bust began in 1999, and the downturn began
long before the election. Anyone who knows anything
about business cycles knows that downturns have their
genesis long before the actual increases in
unemployment and decreases in output.
But thanks for showing your blatant partisanship, as
well as your utter ignorance of economics.
See you in the camps! (it's become a greeting around here).
It would be. Being an extreme leftist/collectivist,
you only will live in a place inhabited by others of
your same traitorous hyperbole, and I'm sure you and
the other losers *do* greet each other that way.
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