Re: Abortion

David V. wrote:

> Don Swayser wrote:
>
> > David V. wrote:
> >
> > > Don Swayser wrote:
> > >
> > > > .... Contrary to your contention the deasth[sic]
> > > > penalty is a deterent[sic] to violence of the most
> > > > extreme form, murder. The death penalty wasn't
> > > > applied, until recent years, since the mid-seventies.
> > > > The murder rate rose during those years. Since the
> > > > death penalty is again being pronounced the murder
> > > > rate has declined. It is now down to pre-ban rates.
> > > > Those are the facts....
> > >
> > > Those may be "facts" but it is a fallacy to assume that
> > > the removal of the death penalty caused a rise in the
> > > murder rate. Texas has been offing people for a long
> > > time and their death row is still packed. Those that
> > > claim that capital punishment is a deterrent know
> > > nothing about, and aren't interested in, studying criminal behavior. 
> > > They just want revenge.
> >
> > Then you believe that the rise and fall of the murder
> > rate which coincides with the abolition and reinstatement
> > of the death penalty is a coincidence?
>
> Yes. There is nothing to prove they are connected.
Just like there's nothing to prove that poverty and economic depressions 
are related, huh? And maybe a bullet hole through the heart and death 
isn't "proven". After all the guy could have died of a massive coronary 
a thousandth of a second before the bullet struck. Let's see you prove 
they're not connected.
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