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Re: What Is Jonnie's problem here?



Rat & Swan wrote:



usual suspect wrote:

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Here are some of your callous remarks about it.


    The attack on 9/11 was just dandy because it involved an
    airplane?


Try asking yourself -- how would we feel if Iraq decided they didn't like our government and engaged in violent attack to try
to depose our government? Oh -- that was what the Al-Qaida did
(in much less violent form than our invasion of Iraq) on 9/11.
Doesn't seem we accepted the rationale when someone used it on
us.


I still take issue with your contention that 9/11 was less violent than our war with Iraq.


With casualties at 10,000 and rising daily -- Yeah, it was less violent.

Most of those Iraqi casualities were military. They're morally legitimate, and completely different from the 3,000 American casualties inflicted by criminal terrorists in a single day. Iraq civilian casualties are legitimately considered collateral: we were not trying to attack and kill civilians. By contrast, the criminal terrorists you cheer *were* targeting civilians.


As always, you exhibit the classic moral confusion of political extremists.


I'm currently reading _Iraq Under Siege: The Deadly Impact of Sanctions
and War_, edited by Anthony Arnove. The things we have done to Iraq --
including deliberately dropping bombs on civilians

That has not been done.


You have ZERO intellectual credibility: you SOUGHT OUT a book by extreme anti-western leftist/collectivists! You don't have a shred of intellectual honesty: you know what conclusion you want to read, and by golly, you can always find a fellow traitor who says it.

-- are truly appalling.

The appalling thing is your utter lack of credibility and honesty.


No one says that the 9/11 attack (which had no connection
whatever to Iraq) was justified, or anything less than tragic.

YOU did: You said we deserved it.


But the
U.S. _has_ done equally horrible things,

No, they have not. This is your disgusting reflex to find false moral equivalence. It is dishonest from the start, and one of many reasons you have no credibility and are self-marginalized. You KNOW you are lying.






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