Re: "smoked salmon socialists"

"Jeffraham Prestonian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Rubystars" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>
> > > Who says Islamic extremists ( violent ones) are good?
> >
> > Any time the U.S. does anything to neutralize the threat they pose, the
> > liberals are unhappy about it.
>
> In re: Iraq, current tactics there are having quite
> the opposite effect. The previous tactics were
> working much better, by keeping a balance rather
> than creating anarchy for months (and thus insuring
> that whatever banned weapons that MAY have
> existed in Iraq got spread to the four corners).
> All this, while our troops guarded the Oil Ministry
> grounds in Baghdad.

It takes time to establish a new government in Iraq. The war did not
end in two weeks. It's happening now and it isn't over yet. That doesn't
mean we're losing. I have to wonder what kind of shape we'd be in now if
we had a bunch of people in WW2 who cried and got impatient and whined
that it was dragging on too long after only a couple of weeks. Even so
progress
IS being made. An Iraqi (not American) government IS forming.

Ironically it's the liberals who want us to pull out and not help them
anymore when
they need us the most. We can't just go in, destroy the old government, and
then
not build it back up and go home. That's not victory. What we're doing now
over there
is pursuing our goals. To remove the threat, and to set Iraq up on its own
feet as a free
nation, on the road to being prosperous and modern.

> So you see, no one thinks going after bad guys is
> a bad idea -- the disagreement comes in the targets
> and methodology. Even though a hammer is a good
> construction tool, hitting yourself in the head with it,
> or smacking a bunch of boards at random isn't
> addressing any kind of housing shortage.

We're hitting tyrants and scoundrels. We're not doing this randomly.

> They want you to believe they never said it was
> about WMD or the threat Iraq was to the U.S.,
> but they DID say that. Then, their actions on the
> ground showed little regard for finding WMD. So,
> why did we go?  Was it faith-based intelligence?  :)

Actually it was about WMD, but it also had to do, IMO, with the fact that
if a people are crushed under a tyrant, if they don't know freedom, if
they're
taught in school that U.S. is the great Satan, that we're a country that's
the source
of immorality, and evil, that they're going to be a threat to us for
generations and
generations. If we can go in, remove the tyrant, build them up, support
them, and then
let them govern themselves and allow individual citizens to have freedom,
then the long term picture will be much better.

-Rubystars