Re: What has America lost?

Jeffraham Prestonian wrote:
> "Don Swayser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
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>> No, you now know about as much about it as I do. But to put things
>> in perspective;
>>
>> Roosevelt didn't embargo pig iron, steel, scrap steel and oil to
>> Japan until after they has been at war in China for four years.
>>
>> England and France were sending steel and oil to Italy in spite of
>> the Albanian in April 1939 invasion until shortly before May 10,
>> 1940.
>>
>> Trains bearing grain, oil and other strategic materials kept
>> pouring across the German border until 12:00 A.M. on June 21, 1940.
>>
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> Perspective, or pre-emptive apologist...?  ;) Thanks for narrowing
> down the timeframe (whether wittingly or not), btw.  :)
>
Just thought I'd point out facts of life to someone so obviously lacking
any knowledge of history.

>
>> By these standards the fuck up at Commerce was singularly
>> unspectacular.
>
>
> So was that non-analogy inferring some reasonable comparison of
> Iraq's threat to ANY nation in 2003 to the Axis powers' threats to
> Europe and beyond during WWII. I forgive you.
>
Only morons fail to see relevance. Human nature doesn't change. That's
been proven over many centuries of recorded history. Many of the facts 
of the dictatorships of the twentieth century can also be compared to 
Napoleon in the eighteenth century, the Czars of the seventeenth century 
 the Hapsburgs of the fifteenth and sixteenth century, the 
Plantagenennts of the fourteenth, the Huns, Ostrogoths, Visgoths, 
Vandals, Angles, Saxons of the dark ages and Rome before that. The 
details differ, not the motives. Strong peoples and leaders want what 
others have and take it by force. How was Hussein any different? He 
wanted the oil of Iran and Kuwait and tried to take it by force. How is 
this different than Hitlers Libenstraum? Japans Greater East 
Co-prosperity Sphere? Napoleons conquests? And in the last couple 
centuries totalitarians have felt compelled to find resaons for their 
aggression. Hitler used oppressed German minorities in Czechoslovakia 
and Poland. Napoleon was feeing countires of oppressive monarchies. 
Japan was freeing Asians from Western influence. Hussein used attampted 
assassinations supposedly sponsored by Iran and Slant drilling into 
Iraqi oilfields by Kuwait. A child could see through those rationals. No 
one with an even mediocre intelligence and scant knowledge of history 
sees right through them, yet you can't. Kinda sad.

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