Re: The death penalty legitimizes murder

"Critter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> If you consider marriage - well, maybe. 

Hey, I've been in the military, and I'd rather go through that again
than face MARRIAGE!!!

> There is no military - just a fraternal brotherhood of assholes.

On the contrary, there is a military.  Anyone who lives in America
should thank thiers' for the freedom it has protected.
 
> I guess you're right, lets all just resolve to live in a perpetual state of
> war. How fun it sounds.

The idea is to avoid war, but sometimes little Dick Tater just don't
wanna play ball by the rules.
 
> Stratopig. Is that one of those things with the straps on it that you wear
> around the waist ?

Stratopig-a.k.a. B-52G Stratofortress-a.k.a. BUFF (Big Ugly Fat
Fucker)

> I agree with this conflict as well. I also think that Bush Sr. & Jr. are
> both great men among men. I understand that it is neccesary and I do not
> protest our actions against the Talibun or Sadaam. But, I also maintain that
> war is ALWAYS murder, even in this case.

Then I guess we mainly dissagree on the definition of "murder".

> Let me ask you - when Castro was putting Soviet missiles in place aimed at
> the US - do you think that he might have been preparing to "murder" us ? Or,
> was he simply engaging himself in the relatively innocent practice of war ?

Castro's harboring of Soviet missiles was, at best, an attempt at
detterance and at worse a prelude to war.  Had he fired said missiles
with no warning, no provocation and at civilian targets then I would
consider it an unprovoked attrocity. On the otherhand I consider the
WTC murder.  There was no strategic reasoning in that attack, just
vengance.

> I did not say that it was unjustified. I only stated that it is murder, and
> it is. I do not believe that I have made a single statement opposing the
> cuerrent war, I do not believe that I have. All I am saying is that war is
> murder no matter who is fighting it, no matter the reason.
> 
> You cannot win a war by only shooting at people who have first shot at you.
> You cannot win by playing fair. You only win by going in like a vicious dog,
> seeking and destroying the enemy aggressively. To do this you must think as
> a murderer does, with the intent of destroying human life with impunity -
> otherwise you die. US soldiers are typically very even handed players, but
> only because we are one of the most liberal nations on Earth.


Personally I believe in a much narrower definition of the word
"murder".  But then I'm biased by the legal definitions in such
matters.

Yol Bolsum,
Grendel.

"Life IS Pain, Princess.  Anyone who sais otherwise is selling
something."