Re: What has America lost?

Jeffraham Prestonian wrote:
> "Don Swayser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
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>> It is an established fact that one high ranking terrorist from
>> Al-Qaeda sought and received medical attention in Baghdad. That
>> fact alone plces him squarely in support of know, wanted
>> terrorists.
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> If that's the case, then anyone connected to terrorism who sought and
> received medical attention in the U.S., with or without the knowledge
> of U.S. government officials, would put the U.S. squarely in support
> of terrorists, correct?
>
Fallacious foundation for any kind of argument. Hussein ran a
totalitarian state. Such states are very well informed about the state 
of presence of any non-citizens. I can only assume you're ignorant of 
the methods totalitarian states can employ to detect and track such people.

>> There is also much circumstantial evidence such as suspectd
>> training bases and financial support. Ansar al-Islam maintained a
>> training base in NE Iraq. That area was NOT under control of the
>> Kurds.
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> Was it under control of Saddam?
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Questionable. It seems to have been a no mans land, but I'm sure there 
are arguments on both sides. However there has never been any reported 
armed clashes between Husseins armed forces and the terrorists. Since 
there were between the Kurds and them I'll leave it to the reader to 
decide the obviously apparent facts of the matter.

>> It was an area which was a no-mans land.
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> Oh, I see. Kind of like our borders here in the U.S.
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Non-sequiters won't be answered.

>> There are many reports of high ranking terrorists of Al Qaeda
>> meeting with Iraqi intellignce.
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> Any that haven't been thoroughly discredited? If so, cites, please.
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Discredited by whom. You cite the ones which have been, by whom and 
provide substantiation. I know of none which have been discredited so I 
wouldn't know which ones to cite. For instance, was the meeting in 
Prague, reported by Czech intelligence discredited? By whom? How do they 
know? What is there proofs?

>> One of the most telling points is the reduction in the activities
>> of Al Qaeda since the fall of Hussein, which mirrors the stark
>> reduction in terrorism after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
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> Is there a chart somewhere that tracks this at, say,
> www.totallybaselessassertions.com?
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Before the war they struck targets throuout the world. The US and Bali,
embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, the 
Philippines. Their only serious attack since the war was in Saudi 
Arabia. You're an individual who seems incapable of recognizing obvious 
facts. I can only assume your mind is clouded from the truth by 
propaganda and indoctrination. Unless you can limit your rebuttals to 
cogent arguments and serious questions go away before you get me irritated.

> You might wanna call Rummy and tell him you've found a metric for
> measuring our successes in the sideshow in the war on terror... he's
> had some trouble seeing the data so plainly available to you.
>
Profoundly ignorant.

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