Re: Liberals are weird!

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:05:30 -0800, "JoettaB"
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>"Grizzlie Antagonist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:35:23 -0800, "JoettaB"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> >"Hot Frog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grizzlie Antagonist) writes:
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>> >> > I can understand all of those things, but what I don't understand is
>> >> > the intense HATRED that he generates in liberal quarters - visceral
>> >> > intense physical HATRED.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't understand that at all.  He seems to be a nice guy and a
>> >> > genuine human being.  Political opposition is one thing, but what is
>> >> > there about him which would generate such intensively negative
>> >> > PERSONAL feelings?
>> >>
>> >> The Democratic Party has always been dominated by hate mongers.  After
>> >> all, they are the party that founded the Ku Klux Klan and murdered
>little
>> >> children in the name of segregation.  They hated Eisenhower too,
>> >> particularly after he sent in the army to enforce integration in
>southern
>> >> schools.
>> >>
>> >> Even hate mongers have rights.  If they cross the line into violence,
>we
>> >> can throw them in prison.  Until then, they have a right to say what
>they
>> >> want.
>> >
>> >Oh, yeah. We're such hate mongers that we voted Kennedy into office
>>
>>
>> That's a PERFECT example of liberal hate-mongering!  The Kennedys take
>> no prisoners.
>>
>Well, you have certainly proved that you are just another right-wing nut
>that clips and snips away at responses to suit your devisious means. So let
>me repeat what I said, so that you can focus through more than the first
>dozen or so words before you blat out your little right-wing response. And,
>before doing that, I will add that three Kennedy's have died trying to serve
>this country... 



Nonsense.  The Kennedys who have died in service have died trying to
serve what they believe is the inevitable triumph of the Kennedy
dynasty.

I don't even know where you get a count of three.  As William F.
Buckley said in 1965, "It's disgraceful the way this country makes the
Kennedys fight for their throne".


> so I could scarcely say they and theirs were the ones that
>"take no prisoners." 



I know that you scarcely could.  But they have a well-deserved
reputation for ruthlessness.


>The only reason you're pissed at them right now is that
>>old Teddy boy



"I may never become president".


> has been making your fellow Bush


Well, as I said, he's really not my fellow Bush.  You're just driving
him into my corner.


> look like the utter idiot he
>is.


Are you aware of the contradiction inherent in your statement?


>"Oh, yeah. We're such hate mongers that we voted Kennedy into office



That's what I said.


> and do
>our best to police our own dirty laundry.



How can you put a dirty shirt under arrest?



> In June 1963, Alabama Gov. George
>Wallace (Democrat turned Indepent) refused to allow two black students to
>enter the University of Alabama. Kennedy called in the National Guard to
>ensure the safety of the students


As I remember there was far more bloodshed spilled in Alabama than
when Eisenhower sent in troops to Arkansas.



> and, later a televised speech, was
>followed a week later with a proposed Civil Rights Bill to Congress.



It's pretty much acknowledged now that Kennedy had no passion for
civil rights and did not move on this issue until his hand was forced.

But damn it; you are begging the issue that I originally raised.


>BUT... let's just face it. Racists or bigots exist in every political party
>in some form or another; these issues are not a partisan matter."
>
>


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