Re: (Free Tibet) Why Tibet??

In soc.culture.hongkong mongoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LT Lee) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
:> Pilar Quezzaire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
:> > In soc.culture.hongkong betelnut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> > 
:> > : "Magister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
:> > : news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> > :> "betelnut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
:>  news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
:> > :> > tibet has been a backward civilization stuck in the middle ages.  the
:> > :> > chinese must civilize them.
:> > :>
:> > :> Even if they do not want the Chinese communist version of
:> > :> civilization?
:>  
:> > : that's the problem of being backward/uncivilized.
:> > 
:> > No, that's the "problem" of wanting to establish their modernization for 
:> > themselves. Europeans colonized much of the world assuming their version 
:> > of "modernity" was the right one. It wasn't necessarily, and we feel the 
:> > after-effects of that short-sightedness all over the world. China has made 
:> > some of the same mistakes. 
:> > 
:> > I'd be all about the idea of a benevolent government assisting the people
:> > of Tibet if things had stayed at the level of involvement they were when
:> > the occupation first started. Now, Tibet is yet another place to dump
:> > China's overblown Han population and do a little strip-mining while
:> > they're at it.  *I* wouldn't want China in Tibet if I were Tibetan with
:> > they way they treat the country either, whatever their oiginal intentions
:> > were.
:> 
:> Facts: You are not in Tibet and you are no Tibetan. 
:> It is also doubtful that you know any fundamental differences between
:> Han Chinese and Tibetan Chinese besides racist bs similar to those
:> posted in ICT.

: Why don't you address her point that Tibetans should determine their
: own way of modernization, rather than speculate about what she does or
: doesn't know about Tibetans?  I know a lot of Tibetans and all of them
: feel strongly that the CCP occupation of Tibet is doing little or
: nothing for Tibetans other than to destroy their traditional culture
: and extract their natural resources.

The reason he can't is because JT has nothing to stand on. When he
doesn't, he goes for "factoids" that he thinks are going to somehow
support his arguments. He also doesn't seem to understand that for those
of us somewhat knowledgeable in these areas, empathy is a useful thing to
have. Anyone who has an iota of an idea of what's really going on is
concerned, Tibetan or not. You have to completely give into CCP propaganda
or stick your head in the sand NOT to be concerned. I'm fairly balanced 
about my views on Tibetans compared to many Americans, and I /still/ know 
that what is happening there is wrong. 


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Pilar