Re: (Free Tibet) Why Tibet??

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> > > > > tibet has been a backward civilization stuck in the middle ages.
> the
> > > > > chinese must civilize them.
> > > >
> > > > Even if they do not want the Chinese communist version of
> > > > civilization?
> > >
> > > that's the problem of being backward/uncivilized.
> > >
> > > > It is appalling that the Chinese play the race card at every turn,
but
> > > > it is simply another method of dodging the real issues. These
parrots
> > > > of Beijing obviously have no minds.
> > >
> > > tibet is part of china, although an autonomous zone.  tibet should
> advance
> > > along with the rest of china while preserving its distinct tibetan
> > culture.
> > > of course, tibetan culture, just like every other culture in the
world,
> > will
> > > change with progress.
> > >
> > > if china left tibet to rot, it wouldn't do good to both tibet and
china.
> > > even within a neighborhood, there would be conflicts between the
> > > poor/uneducated and the "rich"/educated.  also, a backward tibet under
> the
> > > influence of china's enemies would prove to be a major threat to
china.
>
> > All hail the benevolent Chinese victors who will bring Tibet into a new
> > golden age with the rest of them.
> > Loser.
>
> you need to be educated and civilized by the chinese as well.
Yeah, we know about your education. Torture and murder. Piss off.
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> > >
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> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (CFAIII) wrote in message
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> > > > > > > I hope without sounding insensitive, and with a real
sincerity,
> I
> > > > > > > ask...Why is the political issues of Tibet so important? It's
an
> > > issue
> > > > > > > I see on Bumper Stickers and Tee-Shirts all the time, and I've
> > seen
> > > it
> > > > > > > for the better part of a decade. But what I don't understand
is
> > > where
> > > > > > > does the passion come from? Why Tibet? Why not (insert
favorite
> > > > > > > African nation here) or any half dozen (extreme)Islamic
nations
> > > under
> > > > > > > oppression (as oppossed to the Moderates in the region)? How
> about
> > > > > > > Free N. Korea or Cuba? I guess everyone picks their battles,
but
> > > Tibet
> > > > > > > just doen't seem to be the worse place...all other things
being
> > > equal.
> > > > > > > But again, I realise in asking I am in a position of ignorance
> on
> > > the
> > > > > > > Tibet matter. That's why I'm here...for you to explain it to
me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Racism against Chinese supported by mostly Europeans.
> > > > > > The following is their characterization of "very very Chinese"
in
> an
> > > > > > award winning article showcased by the Internation Campaign for
> > Tibet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.savetibet.org/News/News.cfm?ID=1019&c=6
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "...very, very Chinese. The inner feelings lack the human touch,
> the
> > > > > > human quality, the caring nature, the loving heart and every
thing
> > > > > > that is gentle.  They are like human robots with no human
> feelings.
> > > > > > ..."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Second Prize Winning Essay
> > > > > > May 3, 2002
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Question: In a post-solution Tibet, what rights should be
granted
> to
> > > > > > Chinese workers and residents living in Tibet?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By Ngawang Choeney
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The hour has drawn nigh and the moon has lent its cooling light
to
> > > > > > shine over the darkness that has just passed by. The year is
> 2008AD
> > > > > > and the Tibetan problem has found a solution. It is the post
> > solution
> > > > > > period.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Tibetans in exile have embraced everything that the Tibetans
> in
> > > > > > Tibet have to offer except the deep-rooted Maoist ideology that
is
> > so
> > > > > > brutal, so devoid of compassion that they can not just have it
> even
> > if
> > > > > > offered on a platter. The Tibetans in exile have been true
> followers
> > > > > > of the teachings of Lord Buddha which sums up the fact; commit
no
> > sin,
> > > > > > nurture and carry out everything that is good, control the mind
> and
> > > > > > that is the teaching in a nutshell. The Tibetans in exile have
> > always
> > > > > > done their best to represent the Tibetan race as a race that
> abides
> > by
> > > > > > compassion, love, kindness and friendliness.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now that they have reunited with their brothers and sisters in
> > Tibet,
> > > > > > it feels uneasy to commit one self to the near ones. This is
> because
> > > > > > the near ones have an absolutely different set of thoughts that
> are
> > so
> > > > > > un-Tibetan but very, very Chinese. The inner feelings lack the
> human
> > > > > > touch, the human quality, the caring nature, the loving heart
and
> > > > > > every thing that is gentle.  They are like human robots with no
> > human
> > > > > > feelings. The realization strikes back like a powerful lighting
> out
> > of
> > > > > > the black clouds and you feel so numb, so helpless.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A decision is made. The Tibetans from both sides will accept one
> > > > > > another on an equal footing but the final judgment will be given
> by
> > a
> > > > > > special group consisting of equal number of representatives.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, the meeting has begun to discuss what to do with the
> innumerable
> > > > > > Chinese workers and the settlers in Tibet. At this moment it is
> not
> > > > > > possible to send them back to Chinese mainland where they may
not
> > have
> > > > > > any source of income and thus they would have to lead an
unstable,
> > > > > > miserable livelihood. More over, it does not seem right on the
> part
> > of
> > > > > > the Tibetans to cause suffering to the many Chinese residents.
It
> is
> > > > > > the firm belief of the Tibetans not to harm others if one can
not
> be
> > > > > > helpful.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The discussion has gone for three days and finally the panel has
> to
> > > > > > give the judgment. The panel has five Tibetans born and brought
up
> > in
> > > > > > Tibet and five representing the exiled Tibetans. The Tibetans in
> > Tibet
> > > > > > have no sympathy for the Chinese workers and the residents
though
> > many
> > > > > > of them have been in Tibet for more than half a century. They
have
> > > > > > forwarded the judgment that the Chinese workers must be sent
back
> to
> > > > > > Chinese mainland whether they like it or not. They deserve the
> > > > > > suffering as they have made the Tibetans suffer much during
those
> > many
> > > > > > years of Chinese rule in Tibet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then a contradiction is forwarded by the representatives of the
> > exiled
> > >
> > > > > > Tibetans saying that it is not fair and justified because the
> > judgment
> > > > > > is against the diction of Buddhism. The Chinese settlers must be
> > > > > > allowed to remain in Tibet but they must adopt direct taxation
> > method
> > > > > > for the contribution of Tibet's economy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The panel then touches upon the work permit and the decision
that
> > the
> > > > > > members favor is to let the Chinese residents work as per their
> > skills
> > > > > > to produce the best result. They must be given payment measured
> > > > > > against they performance. The Tibetan government will enroll
only
> > the
> > > > > > well-trained Chinese in the field of their own specialization as
> > > > > > responsible officials at work. The government will ensure that
> they
> > > > > > are provided with the basic rights of the employments as per the
> > rules
> > > > > > of work and HUMAN RIGHTS PROVISIONS under the CHARTER OF THE
WORLD
> > > > > > HUMAN RIGHTS BODY. There will be no discrimination on the basis
of
> > > > > > sex, colour or creed. The employer must ensure their welfare
> keeping
> > > > > > in mind that they are employees appointed on the criteria of the
> > > > > > specialized category. They must have legal provisions like their
> > > > > > Tibetan counterparts. The Chinese workers can feel free to voice
> > their
> > > > > > discontentment in any circumstances. They must get appropriate
> > > > > > reprisal for the same.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The most important topic of discussion is the discipline, and
the
> > > > > > given judgment is that the Chinese residents must follow the
rules
> > and
> > > > > > regulations set by the government of Tibet. They must abide by
the
> > > > > > normal jurisdiction of any normal person residing in Tibet. The
> > > > > > SECURITY OFFICE UNDER THE CABINET OF THE TIBETAN GOVERNMEMT will
> be
> > > > > > responsible for overseeing the discipline of the Chinese
> residents.
> > > > > > Any misdemeanor on their part can land the culprits behind the
> bars
> > > > > > with an extremely high bail order.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for the children of the Chinese settlers, the panel feels,
they
> > > > > > will not face much obstacles in the field of education that is
to
> be
> > > > > > given in Tibetan because most of them have been born and brought
> up
> > in
> > > > > > Tibet. They will be given opportunity of attending schools that
> are
> > > > > > free of cost up to the HIGH SCHOOL level. The University level
> will
> > be
> > > > > > cost-effective but the Chinese too can avail of scholarship if
> they
> > > > > > have the right aptitude, the sharpness of intelligence and the
> will
> > > > > > power to carry on with specialized field of education. The
Chinese
> > > > > > graduates are expected to contribute something to the Tibetan
> > > > > > government. They must be ready to give back a little after
> > completing
> > > > > > their respective courses. They shall not double-cross the
Tibetan
> > > > > > government that has been very hospitable and concerned with
their
> > > > > > welfare and of course which has been so homely, so
understanding.
> > The
> > > > > > educated Chinese will be assured of security in every
> circumstance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for the choice of religion, the Chinese residents have the
> > freedom
> > > > > > to adopt the religion of their choice. Their beliefs, ceremonies
> > will
> > > > > > be respected. If they choose to convert to Buddhism, there will
be
> > no
> > > > > > restrictions. They need never fear the cropping of religious
> > > > > > distension. The communal harmony is one vital aspect of the
> Tibetan
> > > > > > government that draws much attention.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Finally, the panel has reached the last point of discussion,
which
> > is
> > > > > > to decide the future of the Chinese workers and residents. Once
> they
> > > > > > decide to remain in Tibet for the rest of their lives, they are
> > > > > > required to possess valid documents that need renewal every five
> > > > > > years. They can become Tibetan citizens after a period of
> continuous
> > > > > > stay within Tibetan boundary for at least ten years. If they
come
> > > > > > across any legal problems, they have the right to appeal at any
> > court
> > > > > > of law on par with the Tibetans.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Order, it is believed is the first law of heaven. Tibet will
> > certainly
> > > > > > see to its law and order to be invigilated every now and then.
> Tibet
> > > > > > can then emerge as a nation of peace, modernization and
stability.
> > The
> > > > > > Chinese residents are expected to share the responsibility of
> making
> > > > > > Tibet a complete zone of peace, a sanctuary of peace-loving
human
> > > > > > being and a budding nation with no objection to the visitors
from
> > > > > > beyond the Himalayas. Tibet of the fresh century sees itsself as
a
> > > > > > haven of peace, nonviolence, love, compassion, and fraternity
> where
> > > > > > the Chinese workers and settlers too have a role to play.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then let the world say; Behold, how good and pleasant it is when
> > > > > > brothers and sisters dwell in unity, peace, love, happiness and
> > > > > > prosperity. Let this be an example to the world of the fresh
> > century.
> > > > > > Let the united people belonging to two different cultures living
> as
> > > > > > one on one soil open a fresh chapter in the world history.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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