Re: (Free Tibet) Why Tibet??

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> > > tibet has been a backward civilization stuck in the middle ages.  the
> > > chinese must civilize them.
> >
> > Even if they do not want the Chinese communist version of
> > civilization?
>
> that's the problem of being backward/uncivilized.
>
> > It is appalling that the Chinese play the race card at every turn, but
> > it is simply another method of dodging the real issues. These parrots
> > of Beijing obviously have no minds.
>
> tibet is part of china, although an autonomous zone.  tibet should advance
> along with the rest of china while preserving its distinct tibetan
culture.
> of course, tibetan culture, just like every other culture in the world,
will
> change with progress.
>
> if china left tibet to rot, it wouldn't do good to both tibet and china.
> even within a neighborhood, there would be conflicts between the
> poor/uneducated and the "rich"/educated.  also, a backward tibet under the
> influence of china's enemies would prove to be a major threat to china.
All hail the benevolent Chinese victors who will bring Tibet into a new
golden age with the rest of them.
Loser.
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> > > "LT Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (CFAIII) wrote in message
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> > > > > I hope without sounding insensitive, and with a real sincerity, I
> > > > > ask...Why is the political issues of Tibet so important? It's an
> issue
> > > > > I see on Bumper Stickers and Tee-Shirts all the time, and I've
seen
> it
> > > > > for the better part of a decade. But what I don't understand is
> where
> > > > > does the passion come from? Why Tibet? Why not (insert favorite
> > > > > African nation here) or any half dozen (extreme)Islamic nations
> under
> > > > > oppression (as oppossed to the Moderates in the region)? How about
> > > > > Free N. Korea or Cuba? I guess everyone picks their battles, but
> Tibet
> > > > > just doen't seem to be the worse place...all other things being
> equal.
> > > > > But again, I realise in asking I am in a position of ignorance on
> the
> > > > > Tibet matter. That's why I'm here...for you to explain it to me.
> > > >
> > > > Racism against Chinese supported by mostly Europeans.
> > > > The following is their characterization of "very very Chinese" in an
> > > > award winning article showcased by the Internation Campaign for
Tibet.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.savetibet.org/News/News.cfm?ID=1019&c=6
> > > >
> > > > "...very, very Chinese. The inner feelings lack the human touch, the
> > > > human quality, the caring nature, the loving heart and every thing
> > > > that is gentle.  They are like human robots with no human feelings.
> > > > ..."
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > Second Prize Winning Essay
> > > > May 3, 2002
> > > >
> > > > Question: In a post-solution Tibet, what rights should be granted to
> > > > Chinese workers and residents living in Tibet?
> > > >
> > > > By Ngawang Choeney
> > > >
> > > > The hour has drawn nigh and the moon has lent its cooling light to
> > > > shine over the darkness that has just passed by. The year is 2008AD
> > > > and the Tibetan problem has found a solution. It is the post
solution
> > > > period.
> > > >
> > > > The Tibetans in exile have embraced everything that the Tibetans in
> > > > Tibet have to offer except the deep-rooted Maoist ideology that is
so
> > > > brutal, so devoid of compassion that they can not just have it even
if
> > > > offered on a platter. The Tibetans in exile have been true followers
> > > > of the teachings of Lord Buddha which sums up the fact; commit no
sin,
> > > > nurture and carry out everything that is good, control the mind and
> > > > that is the teaching in a nutshell. The Tibetans in exile have
always
> > > > done their best to represent the Tibetan race as a race that abides
by
> > > > compassion, love, kindness and friendliness.
> > > >
> > > > Now that they have reunited with their brothers and sisters in
Tibet,
> > > > it feels uneasy to commit one self to the near ones. This is because
> > > > the near ones have an absolutely different set of thoughts that are
so
> > > > un-Tibetan but very, very Chinese. The inner feelings lack the human
> > > > touch, the human quality, the caring nature, the loving heart and
> > > > every thing that is gentle.  They are like human robots with no
human
> > > > feelings. The realization strikes back like a powerful lighting out
of
> > > > the black clouds and you feel so numb, so helpless.
> > > >
> > > > A decision is made. The Tibetans from both sides will accept one
> > > > another on an equal footing but the final judgment will be given by
a
> > > > special group consisting of equal number of representatives.
> > > >
> > > > So, the meeting has begun to discuss what to do with the innumerable
> > > > Chinese workers and the settlers in Tibet. At this moment it is not
> > > > possible to send them back to Chinese mainland where they may not
have
> > > > any source of income and thus they would have to lead an unstable,
> > > > miserable livelihood. More over, it does not seem right on the part
of
> > > > the Tibetans to cause suffering to the many Chinese residents. It is
> > > > the firm belief of the Tibetans not to harm others if one can not be
> > > > helpful.
> > > >
> > > > The discussion has gone for three days and finally the panel has to
> > > > give the judgment. The panel has five Tibetans born and brought up
in
> > > > Tibet and five representing the exiled Tibetans. The Tibetans in
Tibet
> > > > have no sympathy for the Chinese workers and the residents though
many
> > > > of them have been in Tibet for more than half a century. They have
> > > > forwarded the judgment that the Chinese workers must be sent back to
> > > > Chinese mainland whether they like it or not. They deserve the
> > > > suffering as they have made the Tibetans suffer much during those
many
> > > > years of Chinese rule in Tibet.
> > > >
> > > > Then a contradiction is forwarded by the representatives of the
exiled
>
> > > > Tibetans saying that it is not fair and justified because the
judgment
> > > > is against the diction of Buddhism. The Chinese settlers must be
> > > > allowed to remain in Tibet but they must adopt direct taxation
method
> > > > for the contribution of Tibet's economy.
> > > >
> > > > The panel then touches upon the work permit and the decision that
the
> > > > members favor is to let the Chinese residents work as per their
skills
> > > > to produce the best result. They must be given payment measured
> > > > against they performance. The Tibetan government will enroll only
the
> > > > well-trained Chinese in the field of their own specialization as
> > > > responsible officials at work. The government will ensure that they
> > > > are provided with the basic rights of the employments as per the
rules
> > > > of work and HUMAN RIGHTS PROVISIONS under the CHARTER OF THE WORLD
> > > > HUMAN RIGHTS BODY. There will be no discrimination on the basis of
> > > > sex, colour or creed. The employer must ensure their welfare keeping
> > > > in mind that they are employees appointed on the criteria of the
> > > > specialized category. They must have legal provisions like their
> > > > Tibetan counterparts. The Chinese workers can feel free to voice
their
> > > > discontentment in any circumstances. They must get appropriate
> > > > reprisal for the same.
> > > >
> > > > The most important topic of discussion is the discipline, and the
> > > > given judgment is that the Chinese residents must follow the rules
and
> > > > regulations set by the government of Tibet. They must abide by the
> > > > normal jurisdiction of any normal person residing in Tibet. The
> > > > SECURITY OFFICE UNDER THE CABINET OF THE TIBETAN GOVERNMEMT will be
> > > > responsible for overseeing the discipline of the Chinese residents.
> > > > Any misdemeanor on their part can land the culprits behind the bars
> > > > with an extremely high bail order.
> > > >
> > > > As for the children of the Chinese settlers, the panel feels, they
> > > > will not face much obstacles in the field of education that is to be
> > > > given in Tibetan because most of them have been born and brought up
in
> > > > Tibet. They will be given opportunity of attending schools that are
> > > > free of cost up to the HIGH SCHOOL level. The University level will
be
> > > > cost-effective but the Chinese too can avail of scholarship if they
> > > > have the right aptitude, the sharpness of intelligence and the will
> > > > power to carry on with specialized field of education. The Chinese
> > > > graduates are expected to contribute something to the Tibetan
> > > > government. They must be ready to give back a little after
completing
> > > > their respective courses. They shall not double-cross the Tibetan
> > > > government that has been very hospitable and concerned with their
> > > > welfare and of course which has been so homely, so understanding.
The
> > > > educated Chinese will be assured of security in every circumstance.
> > > >
> > > > As for the choice of religion, the Chinese residents have the
freedom
> > > > to adopt the religion of their choice. Their beliefs, ceremonies
will
> > > > be respected. If they choose to convert to Buddhism, there will be
no
> > > > restrictions. They need never fear the cropping of religious
> > > > distension. The communal harmony is one vital aspect of the Tibetan
> > > > government that draws much attention.
> > > >
> > > > Finally, the panel has reached the last point of discussion, which
is
> > > > to decide the future of the Chinese workers and residents. Once they
> > > > decide to remain in Tibet for the rest of their lives, they are
> > > > required to possess valid documents that need renewal every five
> > > > years. They can become Tibetan citizens after a period of continuous
> > > > stay within Tibetan boundary for at least ten years. If they come
> > > > across any legal problems, they have the right to appeal at any
court
> > > > of law on par with the Tibetans.
> > > >
> > > > Order, it is believed is the first law of heaven. Tibet will
certainly
> > > > see to its law and order to be invigilated every now and then. Tibet
> > > > can then emerge as a nation of peace, modernization and stability.
The
> > > > Chinese residents are expected to share the responsibility of making
> > > > Tibet a complete zone of peace, a sanctuary of peace-loving human
> > > > being and a budding nation with no objection to the visitors from
> > > > beyond the Himalayas. Tibet of the fresh century sees itsself as a
> > > > haven of peace, nonviolence, love, compassion, and fraternity where
> > > > the Chinese workers and settlers too have a role to play.
> > > >
> > > > Then let the world say; Behold, how good and pleasant it is when
> > > > brothers and sisters dwell in unity, peace, love, happiness and
> > > > prosperity. Let this be an example to the world of the fresh
century.
> > > > Let the united people belonging to two different cultures living as
> > > > one on one soil open a fresh chapter in the world history.
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