Re: Paper Tiger

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Harbinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>The oriental culture differs from the occidental. In the East, strong sex
>drive is viewed as a sign of prowess. In Japan, having a concubine is a
>status of success.

>One's sex life is a matters of private affairs. It is a matter of opinion.
>Why Americans voted Clinton and Kennedy even they have strong sex drive ?

You are mixing two completely different things. A strong sex drive is
one thing, having mistresses or "concubines" as you call it is also
considered by most humans to be fairly commonplace. But when someone's
strong drive for concubines is based on an appetite for having sex
with children, then that is something completely different. This is
nowadays considered a serious crime, which is possible now to
prosecute without regard to national borders.

Maybe, since you are so knowledgeable in this area, you can tell me
whether the widespread cultural belief among really old Chinese men,
that having sex with a virgin child will rejuvenate their vigor,
originated somewhere back in the glorious 5,000 year old civilisation,
or did it actually start with Mao? Was he merely the foremost
example of an ancient vile belief, and the mindless worship of him
only cemented the practice among old toads in general, or was the
helmsman himself the author of some new "revolutionary" sexual
morality?

This issue has long been a serious social problem here in Thailand,
though increasingly difficult for the authorities to ignore due to
more media publicity, and more civic groups working on awareness among
the public. Certain levels of police corruption, coupled with
organised crime, lucrative people-smuggling rackets bringing children
from Burma, China, Laos & Cambodia, and the invisible nature of this
class of operation, all make it very difficult to fight. When the
media or civil society activists make public an investigation or
report, it invariable includes - among the heartbreaking stories of
virtual slavery - some elaboration on why these young virgin girls are
the most valuable commodity, commanding extremely high prices. A 13 or
14 year old girl will tell how she was kept incarcerated, waiting for
that necessarily wealthy old Chinese man who would pay the high price
for a "first time". It may not be nice to hear, but this is a very
specific and lucrative subset of prostitution (you won't see it in
Patpong), serving a very specific select group of high-rolling, but
elderly Chinese men. Nobody else will pay hundreds of thousands of
baht for their pleasure, and the children are reserved for them for
that reason. If the child is unlucky, she'll be serving ordinary
low-budget johns after her "first sexual experience" with an old toad.
If she's even *more* unlucky, she'll undergo an operation (some sort
of fake hymen replacement), and with her virginity "restored", she'll
have another "first time" with another old toad.

Now I realise I'm going out on a limb here, not for the synopsis above
(repeatedly verified publicly many times in the 12 years I've lived
here), but for asking for info on sex matters from a Singaporean
currently living in that nanny state. I mean, in a place that
criminalises non-procreative sex of any kind, as being against the
order of nature (and thus illegal); where a "good" young family man
was recently convicted for receiving a mutually consensual blow job in
his car; the same Singapore where Hard Binger proclaims strong sex
drive and acquiring concubines is tradition Asian value..... well
let's just say I ain't holding my breath for any reliable
enlightenment about sex.

Brian
-- 
Tips for translating Communist-Chinese into Standard English:

[On the spy-plane episode, relating the fervent wish of the "Hero of the Era"
  for a chance to fly the latest model aircraft, the Peoples Daily eulogised:]

'He persuaded his wife, pregnant for the first time, to have an abortion. "I
 want to make the most of my youth and fly 8 or 10 models," Mr. Wang is
 reported to have told his wife, who "tearfully agreed" to the abortion.'
             - standard translation

'He asked his wife to help him overcome difficulties in family life.'
             - official New China News Agency translation

[taken from column "Beijing Journal" by Erik Eckholm, NYTimes Apr. 26, 2001]