Re: what news journalism ought to be Re: Iraq unable to have democracy

Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Archimedes Plutonium wrote:

(some snipping)
> 
> Thomas Friedman has appeared on the Newshour many times.  No doubt he is the
> TF you're thinking of.  He is a regular editorial columnist in the New York
> Times.  He is the author of several books on the region.  He is in my
> opinion one of the better informed commentators on current events in the
> Middle East.  
> 
>  > And this gives me a nice opportunity to critique the News Media
> > coverage of events.
> 
> I don't even want to go there.  It is a target rich environment.  Suffice to
> say that if you want to be informed, you need to cultivate many sources.
>  
> > The TF that appeared on the Newshour (and I am assuming that TF is
> > Jewish).
> 
> Thomas Friedman is Jewish, no secret that.
> 
> > Gave a nice rundown report on Iraq, but when he gave his report on
> > Israel and the conditions there, he was a failure as a newsreporter. I
> > believe his failing is because TF is Jewish and so biased as to not be
> > able to give a objective report on Israel.
> 
> If you dismiss him out of hand on the basis of one report, you reveal as
> much about your own prejudice as you do about his perceived shortcomings. 
> Thomas Friedman has made many trips to the Middle East.  He has travelled
> all over the region.   He has reported many times not just his own views,
> but the thoughts and feelings of many people in the region, on all sides of
> the issues.  He has on more than one occasion been highly critical of
> Israel and its policies.  I suggest you listen to more than one of his
> reports, read more than one of his columns.

All of us are limited for "time". Bud, since you know so much about
TF, I wonder if any of his books or in any of his appearances on the
Newshour whether TF talks about when Israel back in 1948 had a land
mass of 2,000 sq.km and how it has
continued to grow from 1948 to its present day size of 30,000 sq.km.

And the Newshour itself fails on this issue. Never once on the
Newshour is it
told the American people of the land grabbing nature of Israel. Never
once on the Newshour does the American audience see a map of Israel
from 1948 when it had
just a small land mass and how it has "empire-grown" at the suffering
and expense of the Palestinians.

Example: Some weeks or months ago after an Israeli military incursion
into the WestBank, Mr. Bush asked that Mr. Sharon temper his assault.
And Mr. Sharon's reply was that "Israel has a "right to defend
itself"". The trouble with that jingo was that Mr. Bush repeated it to
the news media and it was repeated all over the world.

Trouble with "right of defending itself" is that Israel is the *prime
aggressor
in the Middle East because Israel has stolen all the land that was
promised to the Palestinians as per 1948 Accords.

So why should Israel be allowed to play the world for a fool and to
play Mr. Bush as a fool by saying that Israel has a
right-to-defend-itself. The Palestinians have no tanks, no
helicopters, no occupation of Israel. Israel is the *prime aggressor*
and to fobb off onto the world its illogic of right to defend itself
is a hoopla of illogic which only a fool would voice to the world.

Someone through the years should keep a list of the illogic that
Israel has pandered for the past 50 years in its quest to steal as
much land as possible in that region. I have not followed that history
except in the past 2 years and here is my short list:

(1) "right of existence" is a ruse to attack and to steal land
(2) "buffer zones" is another ruse to keep stolen lands
(3) "Palestinians as terrorists" is like saying that George Washington
and the
colonists of 1776 were terrorists. Palestinians are more of what is
called
freedom fighters regaining their homeland.
(4) "right to defend" is nonsense when Israel is the primary source of
all aggression in that region for it is Israel that first stole the
land that was native Palestinian. Even a toddler knows that when one
side has tanks and gunships, whilst the other does not, then such is
not defending but attacking.

Bud, I bet that never once in all of TF's books nor in TF's
appearances on TV,
nor in any NYT article does he elaborate or discuss or bringforth the
issue of land mass size of Israel starting 1948 and how it has grown,
double, triple, 10-fold size and more since 1948.

One would almost wonder at the increase in land size whether Israel in
its mini-wars with its neighbors whether Israel did not coax or
somehow initiate the war
just because they sensed that the USA would make sure of the outcome
and that Israel would then be in the position to steal more land from
its defeated foes.
Sort of like a luring of its neighbors to fight a war just so that
more land can be stolen at the end and the USA a foolish and foolhardy
proxy.

Never in the past 3 years of PBS have they shown how Israel has
ballooned in land size and why so much antisemitism because of their
land stealing ways.

Although I must give credit to one PBS show, forgotten its name, where
they did explain how Israel was created via terrorism of the Likud
party when they blew up a innocent British hotel and when they
threatened to hang British soldiers.

Considering how much the Jewish community owns and operates the news
media in the USA, it is amazing that a one hour program on PBS in the
past 3 years does get through that paints a true and accurate history
of Israel as a terrorist founding.

And it is amazing that I as a USA citizen and speak freely and speak
my mind.

And I hope Jimmy Carter can wrangle and lasso this Geneva Accord.
Jimmy gives new meaning and a new dimension to being a former
president of the USA. I think all past presidents should be forced to
be active politically for the rest of their lives once they get out of
office. With the energy and devotion that Jimmy has given to world
politics, he has become one of the most valuable presidents of all
and the others are seen more as "lazy guys". If Jimmy can deliver a
Palestinian Homeland, then, in my esteem, he would have contributed
more to world politics than the active presidency of Mr. Bush. So that
Jimmy, out of office is more of a leader than Mr. Bush in office.

The reason Iraq will never become stable enough for democracy is
because of Israel. Mr. Bush should ask himself if he were a Muslim and
having watched Israel for 50 years, that why should any Muslim of the
1.3 billion Muslims believe a word of what the USA says.

To calm down Iraq so that democracy can grow there, you had to correct
the Palestinian homeland first. The road to peace in Iraq had to be
through Palestine first. Why should any Muslim from East Africa to
Indonesia believe a word of the USA when the USA aids and abetts
Israel in stealing land that was Palestinian.

I feel Jimmy Carter understands that Palestine needed solving first
before Iraq can be solved. So I am wishing Jimmy success in Geneva.
And I believe Jimmy Carter should run for another term in the
WhiteHouse if the Geneva Accord creates a Palestinian Homeland.

Archimedes Plutonium
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