Re: God is punishing the USA for its treatment of Palestinians via Iraq

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Archimedes Plutonium) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Recently their was a vote at the UN to stop Israel from grabbing and
> stealing more land in the WestBank and erecting fences. If memory
> serves me the vote was 142 in favor of stopping Israel and 4 votes
> against with the USA as amoung the 4 against. My question is that
> who were the other 2 if Israel and USA were 2 against??

Micronesia and the Marshall Islands.

Actually, it was 144 in favor of, with 12 absentions.


> And is Mr. Negroponte a USA representative at the UN or is he a
> Israeli representative. I suppose if Israel herded up every
> Palestinian in Gaza and Westbank and shipped them off to some
> remote place, that the USA would still be voting in favor of
> Israeli actions.

Anyways it would solve the problem there quite decisively...
(Not that I'm advocating it, just observing.)


> God is unhappy that the USA has allowed and encouraged Israel to
> steal the land of the Palestinians. And now God has placed USA
> soldiers right into the the MiddleEast Conflict such that when
> Israelis kill 20 Palestinians that Muslims can just go a bit
> north and kill 20 USA soldiers.

I doubt God is angry over it.  If anything, He'd probably
be angry with the Palestinians (hence their being used as
a tool by their arab neighbors to fight the jews, their
vastly worse quality of life in Jordan and elsewhere under
UN protection, etc.).

God said (in Genesis) that the land belongs to the children 
of Abraham forever and ever.  When Abraham had children 
through two different wives (Sarah and Hagar).  God later
clarified the problem by saying the land belongs to the 
children of Isaac (son of Sarah, i.e. the jews).  The 
children of Ishmael (son of Hagar, i.e. the arabs), were 
promised a great nation instead.


Of course, I had a very similar disucssion with you 
previously on this: 
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c49f8b5e.0306200834.17b44287%40posting.google.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain




> Morality and Ethics should be number one motivation in wars. 

That's a very post-modern view of things :-p


> And as long as the USA is on the wrong and evil side of the Israel 
> Palestinian Conflict then God is going to keep on punishing the 
> USA people.

Oy!  Anti-semitism.
I'd have expected better from you Archimedes.
Zionists are evil?



> If George Bush had done that in year 2000 when taking office instead
> of wasting his first 2 years as the "education president" he may have
> avoided 11Sept01 and he would not now be in a Vietnam-style war in
> Iraq.

I seriously doubt we would have avoided 9/11.
Those who perpetrated it had been training for years before
even came into office.  If you read Osama bin Laden's 1998
fatwa (http://www.ict.org.il/articles/fatwah.htm), the issue
of Palestine is only number three on his list.  #1 is our
troops stationed in Saudi Arabia.  Number two is IRAQ!!
The Palestinians don't even rate above Iraq to Osama. (and 
yet we're supposed to believe that bin Laden could never 
cooperate with Saddam, even though bL places the plight of 
Iraq very high on his list of greivances against the west?)

You're wrong on this one.


> And Mr. Bush just does not have the mental abilities to see that Iraq
> is just an extension of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict.

General Boykin does.
And look at the criticism he's had to endure for it.

Oriana Fallaci does, but how many people in the west
take her seriously?  Indeed, how many americans would
even recognize the name?

 
> Ironic that the USA founding fathers wanted separation of church and
> state. How they wanted religion out of politics. Yet the USA fascination 
> and attraction to Judaism to the point where 142 countries are against 
> the Israel and USA partnership. Why are we siding with Israel even when 
> they commit evil?

Israel committing evil?

Blowing up an ice cream parlor full of grandmothers and children
is evil.

Blowing up a school bus full of students is evil.

Shooting 5 year old girls in their sleep is evil.

Hunting down and exterminating those who plan, perpetrate and
enable such acts is not evil.

You have a rather warped sense of good and evil.

The REAL question is, why does the rest of the world find such base 
inumane acts of savagery and barbarity to be acceptable?  Indeed,
why do they go so far as to support those who commit such acts?

In one breath you exhibit amazing post-modern absurdity, and in
the next you utter for medieval anti-semitic absurdity.
*boggle*