Re: A simple proposition to fix democracy in U.S.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>"rico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "John"
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>> >"Erik Aronesty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> >> If we charged people a $200 federal tax penalty for failing to vote in
>> >> a federal election, it would stir a subtle but powerful shift in the
>> >> counciousness of the country.
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>> >What if they are much too stupid and uninformed to vote?
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>> Ah Mr Hamilton and Mr Hanncock, so good of you to appear. Ultimately it
>was
>> decided to allow the mob to particiapte.
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>They are allowed now, but they don't want to. What does their refusal do so
>have to do with Hamiliton and Hancock?

I was specifically adressing your line:
What if they are much too stupid and uninformed to vote?
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>> >> People, feeling compelled to vote, would also feel compelled to talk
>> >> about voting. If only to complain about it! But that's OK. This talk
>> >> would lead, over time, to political discussion and involvement. And,
>> >> finally, a restoration of "Democratic" part of the Democratic Republic
>> >> known as the United States.
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>> >Spoken like a true lefty... "force" people to vote whether they choose to
>or
>> >not, or whether there is ANY candidate they might even support.
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>> Just have to ask why this proposal is lefty, I have heard those on the
>right
>> offer similar ideas.
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>Really? Name ONE.
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>> >> It's a slow process.  But, I think, it's something that's nonpartisan,
>> >> and something that we can probably agree on.
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>> >Not me. If people are too lazy, too irresponsible or too uninformed to
>make
>> >a choice or exercise their right than I pray God they stay home... they
>> >might vote for Hitler (or the Easter Bunny).
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>> And what exactly is wrong with that?
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>Nothing *if* you like the Hitler or the Easter Bunny running the gov.
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>> >> At the very least, we could begin to enact it on a state level - in as
>> >> many states as possible.
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>> >> I would have said that we could start with California.  But now that a
>> >> Republican is in charge, I doubt it would pass.  I'm not sure that
>> >> Republicans really want people to vote.  I think they'd rather just
>> >> run the show and have nobody vote at all.
>> >>
>> >> Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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>> >Of course you're wrong. Forcing or compelling folks to vote no matter
>what
>> >(under penalty) is totally inconsistent with the concept of democracy and
>> >freedom. Their first duty is to get informed enough to vote. Many simply
>> >aren't qualified and know it, or don't care enough to voice an opinion
>(also
>> >their choice).
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>> >Do you really want hordes of stupid and uninformed people voting? Why not
>> >just let 13 year-olds vote if you really believe that? If we did we could
>pr
>> >obably get a new Department of Acne Control.
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>> Talent on loan from Merck
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>Well... you have something on loan... but not sure what. :)
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Talent on loan from Merck