Re: A simple proposition to fix democracy in U.S.

"rico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "John"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >"Erik Aronesty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >> If we charged people a $200 federal tax penalty for failing to vote in
> >> a federal election, it would stir a subtle but powerful shift in the
> >> counciousness of the country.
> >
> >What if they are much too stupid and uninformed to vote?
>
> Ah Mr Hamilton and Mr Hanncock, so good of you to appear. Ultimately it
was
> decided to allow the mob to particiapte.

They are allowed now, but they don't want to. What does their refusal do so
have to do with Hamiliton and Hancock?

>
> >
> >>
> >> People, feeling compelled to vote, would also feel compelled to talk
> >> about voting. If only to complain about it! But that's OK. This talk
> >> would lead, over time, to political discussion and involvement. And,
> >> finally, a restoration of "Democratic" part of the Democratic Republic
> >> known as the United States.
> >
> >Spoken like a true lefty... "force" people to vote whether they choose to
or
> >not, or whether there is ANY candidate they might even support.
>
> Just have to ask why this proposal is lefty, I have heard those on the
right
> offer similar ideas.

Really? Name ONE.

>
> >
> >>
> >> It's a slow process.  But, I think, it's something that's nonpartisan,
> >> and something that we can probably agree on.
> >
> >Not me. If people are too lazy, too irresponsible or too uninformed to
make
> >a choice or exercise their right than I pray God they stay home... they
> >might vote for Hitler (or the Easter Bunny).
>
> And what exactly is wrong with that?

Nothing *if* you like the Hitler or the Easter Bunny running the gov.

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> >
> >>
> >> At the very least, we could begin to enact it on a state level - in as
> >> many states as possible.
> >>
> >> I would have said that we could start with California.  But now that a
> >> Republican is in charge, I doubt it would pass.  I'm not sure that
> >> Republicans really want people to vote.  I think they'd rather just
> >> run the show and have nobody vote at all.
> >>
> >> Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
> >
> >Of course you're wrong. Forcing or compelling folks to vote no matter
what
> >(under penalty) is totally inconsistent with the concept of democracy and
> >freedom. Their first duty is to get informed enough to vote. Many simply
> >aren't qualified and know it, or don't care enough to voice an opinion
(also
> >their choice).
> >
> >Do you really want hordes of stupid and uninformed people voting? Why not
> >just let 13 year-olds vote if you really believe that? If we did we could
pr
> >obably get a new Department of Acne Control.
> >
> >
>
> Talent on loan from Merck

Well... you have something on loan... but not sure what. :)