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The ringing TV "Do it well enough (and often enough), and advertising can make your customers drool." <What's that Martha, I can't here for the ringing.> It could have been on TV... http://www.richardpage.com/about.html Howdy Bader Cute dog, ah? And you don't even need the actual bell, but just a regular TV, which, of course, can get the ring from thousands of miles away! Ah the beauty of capitalism... <Howdy DonQ, I was just joking about the hope after the shelter story which is pathetic in a world of abundance. Its one thing to provide some shelter for the homeless and another shelter from the Lion which is why the shelter was pathetic although the best those good hearted people could do.> I bet you many of those "good hearted" people who gives charity wouldn't move a finger or even may move oppose any revolutionary. Charity is the aspirin for the dying patient... <In the communist system which is closed conditioning was by a different method- direct with open/options closed. In the west it is by media where political correctness pats the right conditioning on the back as repeticious as ringing the bell and rubbishes anything more real or true that works against conditioning. For Russia to become number one it needs to accept your post contents about what totalitarian systems do with public minds and start healing the nations minds who have been through the system and teaching the young ones how to think. I have given a quote from U.S academic who claims the U.S. education system teaches them so they can't think. With the U.S. going backwards and Russia going forwards they should pass at a greater rate of knots.> Most of the conditining in the West may take part via TV--positive enforcement--and fear of losing job, getting sick, etc--negative enforcement. You can learn some awesome tricks even without the fear used in totalitarian regimes. If you know how do the trick, why use the whip? Look at this... http://images.google.com/imgres?img...DUTF-8%26sa%3DN <Living Wage: Any system based on Taxes is surrender to the Lion banking system. We can do better than something with good intentions like the Shelter for the homeless, same as living and universal wages based on tax. (still too depersonalising!) KIng was right- lack of social vision (=conditioning) and shortsightedness (=blindness by conditioning). Barbara Ehrenreich makes a mockery of the bell ringing chorus "get a job" which has become very common since the free market diatribe has been cut loose. She shows that a job isn't enough anymore. It might be considered more intelligent to say "get another life" so both of them can go out to work at the same time since that is where we are heading.> OK, coops it's the best option, but for those where falling outside it--we still need supracooperative projects (transportation, electricity, etc) and a State in its benign form--there can be a decent life, right? <The shortcomings of animal testing is that the mental presumptions of the testers tend to find only proof of what the want to discover. The reason the dogs got excited when the owner came in was they were protesting about the stupid bell and that stupid sadsack who everytime the bell rang mindlessly came in and fed them the same rubbish the owner knew better than to give at home.> In the case of society our masters have come a long way from the bell to the TV. The dogs though still get excited... http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote __________________ "My struggle is not against the puppet, but against the puppeteer"
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